Saturn square Sun transit is one of the more challenging transits to deal with. It can represent a forced turning point where you feel pressured and burdened. It may feel like everything and everyone is against you during this tough time which can lead to feelings of isolation and discouragement.
Basically, your sense of purpose and your goals are being challenged by Saturn in the form of bosses, teachers, parents, or the government. You will have to face this adversity with patience and persistence and keep struggling so they don’t get the better of you.
If your intentions and goals are just ones and in your best interest, then this testing period can refine those plans and strengthen your resolve once you deal with the challenges. If in the face of the tests and restrictions you find that it really is too hard and can see no way of succeeding, then this is the time to cut your losses and conserve your energy, which is likely to be running low now anyway. A tactical retreat might be the best option. Or this transit may signal something in between, where compromise and concessions need to be made on your part.
Once this transit passes then your confidence and enthusiasm will grow again and you can start building new foundations with a better sense of purpose and more strength, having dealt with a very difficult and draining phase of life.
Saturn Square Sun Transit Dates
| Sign and Decan | From | To |
|---|---|---|
| Taurus & Scorpio Decan 1 | March 2020 | December 2021 |
| Taurus & Scorpio Decan 2 | March 2021 | December 2022 |
| Taurus & Scorpio Decan 3 | March 2022 | March 2023 |
| Gemini & Sagittarius Decan 1 | March 2023 | March 2024 |
| Gemini & Sagittarius Decan 2 | March 2024 | February 2025 |
| Gemini & Sagittarius Decan 3 | February 2025 | February 2026 |
| Cancer & Capricorn Decan1 | May 2025 | January 2027 |
| Cancer & Capricorn Decan 2 | May 2026 | April 2027 |
| Cancer & Capricorn Decan 3 | April 2027 | April 2028 |
| Leo & Aquarius Decan 1 | April 2028 | March 2029 |
| Leo & Aquarius Decan 2 | July 2028 | March 2030 |
| Leo & Aquarius Decan 3 | June 2029 | May 2030 |
Things WILL get better…. On July 22, 2009 there was a BIG solar eclipse.. I was born July 2 & it fell on my natal sun.. You are born July 19th- it affected you, too..
In mid Oct 2009- did anything begin to go wrong…off the track ???
We have had our lumps !!! & now Tr saturn Libra is making its last
contacts…
Like yourself- I have to start over..
Scary..but exciting, too
Best to you,
GG
Above should read my birthday is July 22..
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In the weeks leading up to that 2009 eclipse, I had a major life upheaval and things didn’t settle down for me until October 2009. Things were stable for about sixteen months and then started to fall apart again in 2011. Then comes Sun square Saturn. I can honestly say that I’ve been stripped of everything I valued in the last five years. It’s time to rebuild, IMO, as soon as Saturn is done squatting in my 4th.
Transitting mars hit that eclipse degree mid Oct 2009.
I’m glad things settles down for you..
For others- mars going over the eclipse degree really
‘sets it off’- it did for me
Mars starts- saturn ends
GG
Jamie –
Is Saturn square Sun anything like Saturn square Mars?
I haven’t worked since 2009 and my life has essentially collapsed. I have no money and no home really. Saturn trined my Aquarius stellium (1-26-62) but it squared my Mars in Capricorn.
So, I guess my question is: does the bad stuff about Saturn in Scorpio squaring my Sun trump the fact that it goes into my 10th house?
Best always.
Herb, I’m July 19th as well.
Things have been hell for me since September 27th, 2009. I lost my health, my marriage ended, wrecked my car, couldn’t find steady work until August of last year, and when I did, I had to take a massive paycut. things got worse in September of 2011 when the new job had me working 18 hours a day. did that for 5 months. at the same time my father fell and broke his hip. Then my mother. My mother’s alzheimer’s advanced to the point that I had to put both of them into a nursing home because we went through a couple hundred thousand dollars paying for the 24 hour nursing care they needed–still feel guilty about that. In January my cat died of cancer. Then I had a cancer scare: three months of ultrasounds and biopsies. It turned out to be benign, but then my crap insurance company refused to pay for any of it and now I’m being sued by the hospital and hounded by debt collectors. I had sterling credit! and 2 weeks ago my father passed away.
Crap, it’s been bad. For the love of god, please tell me this ends eventually.
my compasssion is with you. i could add a almost similar story about me and my journey. i dont have just saturn. i too have uransu square pluto in my axes. pluto ic is hell. i saw that the shooter in the theater had pluto in his ic natel. and i know, if you have to live with that hell your whole life…
but here it is about saturn. and i look forward to saturn in scorp and i hope, that i learned enough to make benefit of the next three years… all the best for you too.
I can so understand what you are saying..
Do you have any planets or angles near 28- 29′ cancer ??
I have mentioned the Big solar eclipse of July 22, 2009
(my bd) & the havoc it brought..
This was really kicked off when mars next went over the eclipse
degree- 29 cancer- mid Oct 2009..
Look forward to saturn scorpio transit..
GG
my sun is on 28 cancer.
venus 0, mars 7, mc 9, jupi 16, sun 28.
ac 7 libra.
i got saturn square venus, mars, mc. jupiter sun. and the pluto-uranus square is going over ac-dc, and ic-mc.
started to become difficult with neptun square neptun and pluto opp venus. but hell is last three years.
i will see in oktober if saturn has the most part of it, because the other transits will stay until next year.
and i am not sure about neptun trine venus. i thought trines are not so difficult to handle, but i am not sure if that does not depend on other things too. i.e. my neptun is conjunct south node. so this is a special challenge for me maybe.
maybe jamie or marina could ad something to that idea.
i read the text about the psychopath-astro. and i have so much of that difficult natal-configurations. i really wonder why i hadn’t become one during these terrible hits. there must be something that protects me from acting all that stuff out in bad ways, which i feel is inside of me.
maybe its the special mixture of pluto-rage and uranus-killer-lightning on my mars hold on the sofa with the benefit of a deep saturn-depression on my sun.
since i have my suicidial thoughts under control its also not a option to kill myself instead of another… 🙂
so, thanks to happy saturn depression!
you see, i didnt loose my gallows humor.
good luck to you.
forgot to mention the saturn transit over my ac. that was almost no longer to handle…
Angelika I think we have similar aspects . Where is your natal saturn? in which sign and house. Mine is in aquarius.
Isn’t Saturn in Scorpio going to be a nightmare for us (Cancers) too?
Do you have any planets or angles near 28-29 cancer ?
The BIG solar eclipse of July 22, 2009 really hit a LOT of us hard
When mars next went over the eclipse degree- 29 cancer-
all hell broke loose..
Look forward to saturn in scorpio
GG
So sorry to hear this! How are things now? I’m a 3rd decan Aquarius and still in the phase until Sep 2015…Aissh ^^
I’m Decan 1 Leo (July 29) and I’m curious about past dates of the Saturn Square Sun Transit. Wanting to get an idea of what I’m in store for here very soon.
my idea is – dont look back. it all depends on the other transits you have now. and more important – you developed – hopefully 🙂 – since the last one. you will not experience the same i think.
concentration on less and usefull things may give a little help. we are every 14, 15 years in a saturn-sun-square.
Thank you angelika for your kind words. There’s been soooooooo much going on for me and my immediate family these past 13 years I’m surprised I don’t have whiplash, BUT things are definitely starting to slow down and go very well for us. 14 years ago I was in a deep funk and very lost in what I was to do with my life and my relationship at the time was good but not what I wanted it to be 13 years ago….enter my now husband. 🙂 That was a great time of learning lot about myself and since then I’ve been on a crazy, stressful, frustrating, wonderful ride. 🙂 Can’t wait to see how I’ll grow from this! 🙂
Direct – late November, early December 2012
Retrograde – May 2012
Direct – late August, early September 2013.
For me, then, it seems that my relations are to be better performed and that I have one more month to learn the lesson. Pluto is opposing my Asc., and I better learn how to use my pluto to make changes.
Today, authorities talked to me and I have one week to get a better position, or to remain in the way I have been. On this time, they were very specific and clear. I do think I should improve (no-matter-what-I-think-they-seem-to-be).
I am a Galactic Seed and have to see that I was truly acting the shadow of it (in stead of putting my self on the ground and really flourish and blossom, I acted the closed seed dying of fear and without wanting to grow).
I can relate this with my crustacean asc. (cáncer). I rather stayed within my crust, in the so very comfortable (no…!), instead of taking the chance to grow and to success, or -at least- to dare going out of my crust (deep karma, here, really!).
Denial, lack of confidence and fear are the rrots of this behaviour of mine. Thus, open invitation from the Universe for me to change!
Hmmm!
Regards!
Mt.
it is good to have something to believe in, or to hold on like the believe in being a galactic seed. i have left nothing to believe in. nothing.
i am tired, sad, believe in nothing, but most of all i am confused. thats terrible because i am unable to descide. often not even what cloth to wear. so i am always forced to descide, and with every desision i do since many years, i get in a deeper mess. i dont know how to find out… 🙁
What’s a Galactic seed ?
GG
The mayan sign and the tone of it, GG!
And also hope things turn better for you, Angelika!
Rín.
(I sign Lelahel because a scientific was reading my posts! and asked me in a harsh way in front of others).
Oh! Uranus quadrates my Asc. also. Pluto is two grades away of jumping my Desc.
No wonder, this year for me is Torment (double) in my mayan calendar, really. I should change. Feel reflective.
I was wondering who knows about the transit from saturn squaring my natal sun. My sun is at 28.50 Cancer (house 10) and the year 2010 was really, really bad among the things that happened I quit my permanent nice job. I felt very happy at the moment and I truly thought that I made a right choice but then I realized that i made a huge mistake, so then it took more than a year and finally In january 2011 I got a little job exactly during the transit from saturn squaring my sun. I was wondering if I am going to get a better job in two weeks when the transit is back to the same point? I applied for many positions and so far I got a couple of interviews but not job. I am still keeping my little job but is not good enough. My natal saturn is in aquarius…I am not sure if this fact has something to do, but I am hoping it helps.I NEED HELP I am getting very depressed and desperate about what is my path in life.. Thank you
UPPS …I mean to say 2011 (I quit my job in December 2010) when I say 2010 and 2012 when I got the little job..January 2012 ….
I am also sun Aquarius and have felt v low and emotional up and down esp. through this Mercury phase, but I feel for you things will suddenly change before Xmas, you will go fast and not have time to notice your feelings. 2014 will be hard driven but good opportunities – do not dwell on things.
Okay, so I’m Decan 3 and have been feeling this effect for some time. Just when, exactly, does this transit end? Date anyone?
Hallo everyone. Yours truly is going through this one. The peak of it was last Sunday. Thank god its not going retrograde on my Sun as this is turning out to be tough emotionally.
It started out ok as Saturn was applying so I thought it was going to be a breeze. Business, working hard and cash situation good. So much so that I have been upgrading things in my house, getting the handy man in and fixing stupid little things that should have ben done years ago. bathroom shelves that had fallen off, carpentry, all good Saturn structural stuff. I got a new Mac Mini and threw out a ton of old clothes. Next thing is moving to fibre optic broadband and changing phone companies. They will be putting new socket directly into my office yay! So yeah work and success good.
On a personal level, yes I feel the isolation, tired and a little depressed. But new foundations are certainly being built.
I’m a second-decan Leo. I’ve struggled and had hard times for the past several years–all due, I’m told, to Saturn. Now, here it comes again? Jupiter was supposed to kick in about a year ago. There were minor — very minor — improvements, and then back to getting kicked around again by Saturn. When does this stop and the good times start rolling?
Janet I feel your pain.
I too am a second-decan Leo and I have had a terrible time for the past three years. Is this really going to keep going until September 2014? When will it stop? When can I start living again instead of dreading every day?
i’m feeling this. 11 degrees Leo. squaring my Sun in the 6th house. the past two years it has squared my Moon-Mercury in Cancer conjunction in the 6th. i feel forever changed. more somber, less optimistic and i hate this. this isn’t “me”. i’ve been having more panic attacks and dealing with a general feeling of loss of control. i have Saturn conjunct MC natally so i have always been very conscious of my actions; walking the line so to speak. i’m 26 and thoroughly not enjoying my 20’s thus far. i’m supposed to feel free and uninhibited right? enjoying my youth? this hasn’t been the case.
i truly am trying to extract the positive lessons from this. working on self, keeping a low profile. work, work, work. it’s never enough. hopefully my perception will improve in the future! this feels insane.
I feel for you it is the Scorpio affect, the year of the Dragon, is almost stamping on you. Wait till next year for new plans, it will be faster and you will feel more driven, under an Aries/Ram year. I’m not an astrologer – but I am clairvoyant.
I have always been aware of the restrictions of Saturn, and this year has been a very up and down year, the passing Mercury retrograde has strongly affected me, Aquarius 2nd decant, and have had many upsets with my Cancer son. So I think the Saturn aspect might help tone down the high emotion. I am waiting to move home, and the practicality of Saturn might help this too. Thanks, Velma
I have my Rising sign in Aquarius under the third decan which is ruled by Libra/ Venus. How does the decans play apart under each rising sign.
Thank you all for your comments and advice.
I’m Pisces (1st decan) Asc Leo: I’ve just read it should be my turn from Dec 2014 to Nov 2015!!!
Since Dec 2013, I’ve been through Saturn sq my Asc (till Nov 2014).
So, 2 years to deal with very hard aspects: it seems I have to get ready before the next one to come…
As if it’s not enough, I have to face the Saturn op. Mars transit until nov. 2014…
Apparently, “Saturn is trying to stop me more than likely for good reasons. Perhaps, the timing is wrong or there is something else better.”
Yes, indeed: I had started to renovate my home in Dec. 2013 (couldnt do it earlier when Saturn was trine my Sun) but I had to break the contract in January as the builders did not do their job properly.
Thanks to my friends (thank you Pluto in Capricorn!), and Saturn retrograde since early March, new builders have proposed more appropriate solutions to renovate my house.
Since March 3rd til July 21st, Saturn again trine my Sun: it should work out this time as it’s supposed to be the perfect time to renovate my home!
Hi Sandrine! I am exactly the same, first deck in Pisces sun Feb 27, with Ascendant in Leo. We are the same. I am already so tired of our Saturn squares. We have to deal with this until November 2015??
Hi Ramani! yes indeed, we are the same! though this saturn aspect is difficult, fortunately, as Pisces, we are flexible: we should be able to adapt, as usual… and with Asc in Leo, we are also able to find the strenght we need to face this difficult aspect until early nov 2015: keep on staying focused for the last 3 months to come and we will get healthy rewards for our patience and perseverance. good luck!
Thank you Sandrine, and all my best to you. We are almost there!! Actually, I am enjoying some great love and relationship vibes right now so no complaints!! 🙂
thank you Ramani! my twin brother and I are facing the same challenges: therefore, we are closer than before, thanks to this transit… there’s always something good in our lives, even when we are struggling! enjoy your great love and relationship vibes 🙂
I know astrology very much even though I don’t believe in it. 2013 was my difficult year in my educational life.I face many problems with everyone around me and even I just considered by those students around me the lazy one,for sure one thing was happening to me even though I don’t know what I just realize that something was bothering me from studying.I am decant 2 Aquarius ,I am good at things that I face and mostly win before 2013 and fail at every situation in 2013.and 2014 I am good position to return to were I belong.I am great! believer in GOD who is jusus crist,who always stand by my side.I am servant of my God.I don’t care what you say,but respect to your idea,I believe God just want me to be tested in 2013 so that I will be stronger.
At the bottom of the page, it used to say which signs and the dates for experiencing this transit… where’d those go? I liked them.
I got snowed under earlier in the year and they were outdated. Will fix them up once I get the April horoscopes finished.
Jamie why does Saturn Square end on August 2016 for Decan 2 signs?
Typo! Thanks for picking it up for me. Edited to December 2016.
I thought Leo Decan 3 had the Saturn square their decan right now?
Saturn has moved back into decan 3 for a couple of months only.
Also is it less intense if Saturn is retrograde? Thanks!
Somewhat, aspect will be longer lasting, so the impact may feel less as it is spread out over a larger period of time.
Okay good to know, thanks!
Oh no I’m a Leo sun with Scorpio rising and this August 21st there’s a sun Saturn square in these 2 signs and I have a decisive second interview for a job I really want! Would look bad to postpone it. Does it mean I have little chance with the job??
Thanks
This is a test you have to overcome so postponing would look bad.
You’re so right about this hard aspect, Jamie. Nevertheless, I find this aspect very instructive as I keep finding solutions to move forward. Besides, I’ve just noticed that eventhough I was in the same position in 2013, everything was settled in a few days only. The difference between 2013 and 2015: I did not rely on an “authority figure” to achieve my goal. Therefore I came to the conclusion today that I dont need that “authority figure”. This path is therefore wrong and will lead to nowhere: it’s only a waste of time and energy/ressources. I have decided to take the same path as in 2013 in order to eventually settle this issue. Thank you very much 🙂
Hi Sandrine, I think you’ve hit on something – be your own authority figure.
Exactly!
Thank you again, Jamie… and thank you to the lunar eclipse for this new beginning (Eclipse 28th September: the truth will out – dramatic endings and new beginnings).
Natally my Saturn is 13Sag so I will/am experiencing a second return. As Saturn squares my Sun 12Pis natally I am not sure how much to center my thoughts on this. I can tell you that this past year I started learning/practicing Buddhism & have experienced deeper meditative states as well as insight into loving-kindness. My structures are certainly dissolving & letting go of past junk hasn’t been easy. Any insight that can be passed along is helpful & I am grateful for this forum
Yeah the end of 2014 was the hardest thing I’ve gone through so far in my life. Every issue I have feels like a life crisis, and I have zero motivation for anything. My ego is unbelievably weak, that whenever something Saturn related happens to me I just crumble to the ground because the foundation (ego) is weak! So I just gotta keep fixing the foundation until it can support everything in my life! I am glad I only have 2 more years of this. I know I can make it through, and I am just learning valuable lessons. Saturn is the best teacher!!!!
This post is extremely accurate. I’m a Pisces and in Dec 2015, I felt extreme pressure to quit a high paying job with a nice title. It felt like I had no purpose there. I’m still in shock that I quit but I know it was for the best and this post was to the “T” as to the accuracy of what I’m currently going through.
Thanks for the feedback Brianna.
I’m disappointed to hear that Saturn will sq.my decan in December 2016-2017. I thought I had my “saturn return” at 58-59 (I will be 60 on March 12th, born in l956. Will I face another “saturn return” occurance?
Hi Deborah, Saturn square Sun transit is different than Saturn conjunct Saturn transit. A lot will depend on how the Sun and Saturn are placed in your birth chart. As your Sun is well placed and your Saturn is not (Mercury square Saturn), you should find Saturn square your Sun not so bad as your Saturn return. You also have Saturn retrograde in your chart.
I’m with Deborah. Does this mean a whole year of drama. I’m a Decan 3 Pic.
Dana, it all depends on your birth date because there may be just one pass in which case it only lasts a month. if Saturn turns retrograde then there will be three passes spanning about 12 months. But even then, it peaks and the eases off for a few months.
18 Sept 1965..born
wondering when life will get easier again
Personally and at work
Feel like i hv no energy left, and just read 2016 will be tough too?
Hi Tasha, you can look forward to happiness and good fortune for a few weeks around August 21 this year with Jupiter conjunct your Sun.
Thank you for your reply; that’s very reassuring. I did find that my Saturn return brought life “full-circle” and many important unresolved issues were resolved in a meaningful way.
Hi Jamie, my birthday is the 13/03/84. What does this saturn square sun transit mean for me Dec 2016-Dec 2017. What does it relate to and is it a whole year of it?
Thanks,
Denny
Read to article and some comments to understand what it relates to. It will last for 10 months and climax on these dates:
21 January 2017
28 June 2017 retrograde
20 October 2017
It sounds awful. Is it generally career related? Or are there other areas it relates to. I feel like I’m going through this already since July 2015 in a job I hate . I applied for a new job just waiting to hear. Maybe it’s not the right job or am I going into something worse?
I would be grateful of any insight. Will it ease off at any stage ?
It will ease of at stages, yes. it will climax in strength on the dates above. I can’t give any more advise apart from what I have written in the article. This is the most difficult transit most people face, but we all face it every 14 years.
Denny, My birthday is the exact same as yours! I have not had an real issues with my job but I have been having some major issues with my marriage. So I am not sure that it just relates to work. This time has been very harsh on my relationship and It does not seem to be getting better and I see a very horrible time coming in the future for me and I really don’t want to go through with it. I am trying every possible thing I can to avoid the dissolution of my marriage but maybe this is my lesson in life. Usually lessons in life are the most harsh and people usually are not for learning lessons.
I think we’re all a little nervous about next year. I wrote the initial question re: this transit; will these dates climax for me as well? My birthday is 3/12/1956. Thank you Jamie! : )
Hi Deborah, Is that March 12 or December 3? It changes between countries.
I live in California, birthplace Indpls. March 12, 1956 at 7:56 a.m.
IO use precession correction which adds more than half a degree to the planets in your chart. This is based on the fixed stars being the backdrop to the planets, not the stationary Sun Signs on a horoscope.
Saturn square Sun transit:
14 Jan 2017
07 Jul 2017 Rx
11 Oct 2017
Hi Jamie,
I live in Toronto. I was born on Sep 18, 1975 In Rangpur, Bangladesh and am not sure about my time of birth, probably around 8pm. Do you have a suggestion for me? Is this square going to be a tough one for me?
Niaz
No worse than anyone else but you don’t have this until February 2017 to November 2017. Make big gains while the Sun shines: Jupiter conjunct Sun transit for a few weeks around 19 August 2016.
My birth date is 2nd March, 1975. I am going through intense trouble in my career. At times it feels like all the hard work through the years is just crumbling down. While I still continue to work hard towards my goal, at times it feels like it will not end. And yet Dec. 2016 is far away. I am looking for change of job in the summer. Is it advisable to do it now.
based on your date of birth, Saturn square Sun transit is from January to October 2016. It may be wiser to wait until after this to start a new job. This transit is made worse by Neptune conjunct Sun transit from May 12016 to December 2017. More challenging for you because of Sun square Neptune in your birth chart. Thankfully you have the patience and determination of Sun trine Saturn in your chart to overcome these obstacles to success.
Thanks Jamie. It is very helpful to stay aware of the things happening around me and relate to the planetary movements. Your website does a fantastic job. On a different note, I was going through Sun trine Saturn on my birth chart, it is all true. I have overcome many difficulties in the past due to my strong determination. And a very supportive parents, particularly my dad, who has a strong influence in my upbringing.
Hello Jamie…Just wanna know will I have to go through this transit 2 times because I’m a libra Decan 2 dob 10/11/83 born in USA. And my rising sign is in Virgo Decan 1 born at 4:30am. I tend to read both horoscopes. I’ve been through so much pain and losses since 2013. When will it get better. I almost lost my bf in Dec 2015…he’s paralyzed from a gunshot wound. He’s an Aries Decan 3 born 4/13/85 and his rising sign is Pisces Decan 1…it’s been a long ride. When will we see better days?
Is that October 11 or November 10, and what place of birth for you?
Yes it’s October 11 and my place of birth is Miami, Florida, USA
Looks like the situation with your partner is related to Mars square Jupiter/Uranus, the most challenging aspect in your chart. Unexpected change of Uranus opposite Sun transit ended in February 2016. Things settle soon with Saturn sextile Sun transit early December 2016, then good luck with Jupiter conjunct Sun transit from December 2016 to August 2016. A really excellent transit to accompany a major overhaul in your life with Pluto square Sun transit from January to December 2017.
Hi Jamie ,
I browse through many astrology sites. I somehow feel ur analysis is more holistic and considers many angle. I was born in Bangalore India. 12:59pm on 11th march 1976 would u be kind enough to let me know when Saturn square transit will impact me and any specific tips to manage this based on my horoscope. Thanks
Thanks Sk. You will cope better than most because of these aspects: Sun trine Moon, Sun trine Saturn.
Saturn square Sun transit dates:
01 Jan 2017
07 Aug 2017 Retrograde
12 Sep 2017
Read the general meaning of Saturn retrograde because you also have this in your chart.
Hi Jamie my birthday is 9/16/1987. Saturn has been squaring Mars in Virgo and not only do I feel incredibly resentful and lazy about work and making money but I’m trying to start a new career through education and training. I just want to be in my new career already and am tired of working jobs I don’t like.
Ultimately
I feel like Saturn is pushing me to make money, but I’m concerned about the specific roadblocks that will continue as Saturn continues to square my sun and Venus? Am I really in store for such a draining process that takes up several years with setbacks and let downs? Do I have to wait four years to start a new career?
Hi Lex. Before looking at your chart, Saturn squares represent tests of character but that does not means you cannot pass the tests. If you have done the groundwork and have the skills then you will do fine. Saturn squares really affect people who have been lazy or irresponsible.
Now I see you actually have Mars square Saturn in your chart so this is a bigger deal. And with Saturn at 15 Sagittarius you have your Saturn return, an even bigger deal. Timing becomes critical then:
Saturn square Mars transit:
05 Mar 2016
14 Apr 2016 retrograde
16 Nov 2016
Saturn conjunct Saturn transit:
22 Feb 2016
26 Apr 2016 retrograde
12 Nov 2016
On February 22nd, my financial burdens really took off. I owe so many parties money at this point. And I still don’t have a sense of meaningful work but I desperately need money. It’s been hard to keep my ethics and morals in place in terms of what the best course of action is to take.
At the same time Jupiter is conjuncting my Mars/Sun in Virgo and will conjunct my Venus this fall. I just had an amazing trip where I took part as a farming apprentice. It was inspiring but I feel so challenged to root those goals (agroecology, food and eco-justice) now that I’m back and faced with the daunting task of money-making (I still owe the farming program tuition as well). Also, I’m becoming more confident artistically, and am wanting to put myself out there more, but am constantly thinking that I’m not ready.
So, I have these educational and artistic goals right now, (i’d like to apply to another farming internship for next year, i want to start created mixed media autobiographies cause my life is COOL!), but have to find a way to make money, but refuse to work another “meaningless” job that depresses me. I’ve thought of returning to writing , which again is daunting to think of trying to do while i’m so broke.
I’m curious how the rest of this transit will work out with Jupiter + Chiron involved. It feels soooo gloomy sometimes, but possibly a silver lining somewhere?
my birth time is 9/16/1987 11:31 am in Augusta, GA USA
Yes, even Saturn transits can have a silver lining. You will naturally do well in life despite early setbacks because both your AC and MC have good aspects. Mars sextile AC and Uranus trine MC. Plus, as I always say, Saturn gets better with age.
Cool. Awesome Jamie thanks for your monthly horoscope too. They are succinct and informative. Two thumbs.
OK having 2nd Saturn return! Have Sat sq Sun aspect & now going thru transit same. Virgo 26 asc (but might as well be Libra—I use Libra to get my houses somewhat correct).sun 12 Pisc. Sat in 3rd house, Sun in 6th
I took a different job as independent contractor & constantly behind in paperwork, conflicts w/ office manager who is a control freak. I took this job in order to get time for my passion—massage therapy—-but lots of rocks in that path. In meantime, I’ve been learning lots about Buddhism & my meditation has deepened in profound ways.
How are others here faring?
Born on 03-03-1982 at 1:40 PM IST.
lot of unfavorable events recently and in the past. relationship being the most and then career. looks like i am moving back instead of ahead. haven’t manage to buy a house which otherwise should have been done many years ago.
Probably better to wait until Saturn square Sun transit is over. Saturn retrograde is especially hard on your relationships.
18 Jan 2016
06 Jun 2016 retrograde
17 Oct 2016
Hi Jamie. I am sad you are no longer doing personal readings. I would love to have my chart done and have a reading by you. You are great and your website has gotten me through a lot of dark days and weeks so far. Knowing the dates and how long the transits last means a lot, as I use them and Much faith and perseverance as I count the days till a phase is past. Plus your advice of how to get through them is incredibly helpful. I am a big believer in embracing and passing life lessons as fast as possible to reduce stress and heartache. My birthday is March 4, 1970 1:40pm in Fraserburgh Scotland. I presently live in the USA. Life has been challenging but definitely took a brutal turn since last summer. My new career officially started last April. And I feel like I have been in Saturn’s career boot camp before and ever since. Generating income has been incredibly difficult and just started to sooo slowly change for the positive this year. After dealing with life’s challenges for 10 years I thought my marriage could endure anything until this past Fall and December when I was thrown in shock by my husband born in NewYork (Dec 18, 1964) and been on a painful roller coaster ever since wondering if we will continue to be married or not due to physical and emotional distance that has taken a toll on us both after A big move 5 and half years ago. Reading my yearly and June’s transits like Saturn square sun and the new moon just to name two, I am overwhelmed at when I will have relief based on my chart. When to lay low and when are the ideal times to make big decisions.
Thanmks for yur kind words Linda. I don’t look at relationship astrology but I do see light at the end of the tunnel in your chart. Saturn square Sun transit is your last big hurdle:
01 Feb 2016
19 May 2016 Rx
29 Oct 2016
Made worse by Jupiter square Saturn 2016 because of Jupiter opposite Saturn in your chart.
Neptune conjunct Sun transit (May 2017 ti Oct 2018) is not adversely affected by Saturn square Neptune and in fact is made very fortunate by Jupiter trine Sun transit (Dec 2016 to Aug 2018). Optimism, making dreams come true, spiritual journeys.
Hi Jamie, I am a piceses born 9/3/73 near Manchester and have watched my hard work get devalued, almost bullied by everyone I am dealjng with and struggling to make my project at work take off which is unfortunately very high profile. Each time I think thinks cant get worse they do and have since had a mental breakdown which I have not admitted to my work. My final semester for my part-time degree was full of problems and I have no energy, strength, motivation and willpower to do anything and have missed many good job vacancies but hate going into work. I have never felt so weak and am struggling to bounce back, when will this phase end? I am tempted to leave my job but a part of me wont let me because in case ” it turns around”. Since November 2015 I feel bullied by my bosses and the contracters, should I just leave or sit it out? I feel mentally exhausted!!
Born March 9 or September 3?
March 9 sorry.
Hi Manna. There is a lot happening to your chart at the moment and it is not from Saturn square Sun transit. That comes mid December 2016 for you. Jupiter opposite Sun from November 2015 to July 2016 is about to leave you alone which will help greatly.
The other main source of the problems you are experiences is due to Saturn square Neptune 2016. You have:
Saturn square Venus transit from Jan to Oct 2016 (see Venus square Saturn transit).
Neptune conjunct Venus transit from Apr 2016 to Feb 2017 (see Venus conjunct Neptune transit).
Pluto sextile Sun transit next year will revitalize you, especially with Sun sextile Mars in your chart.
Thank you Jamie. I genuinely appreciate you taking the time to reply.
As I am a beginner with astrology and don’t have nor would know how to read my chart. Would you please clarify a few things that you wrote.
The first three dates you mentioned are they just challenges on those days ? or continuously until, or past October 29? Does Rx mean retrograde?
I am happy to hear that is my last big hurdlle. Once it is past how long can I expect to enjoy happier days? when you mentioned December 2015-December 2016 for my Saturn yearly challenge, is that till the 31st of 2016? I thought I read I am challenged till end of December 2017 with Saturn? and would love to hear that doesn’t pertain to me and my struggles end on a specific date this December 2016 or before.
Do I simply need to focus on how to get through Saturn square Sun? And not make big decisions till that is over?
I look forward to reading what the positive transits you mentioned entail.
The transit lasts nearly a year and only climaxes on those dates. Rx means retrograde. When I mention a transit in your horoscope it covers the whole decan so lasts longer than for one individual. It eases off after the final date and is totally gone after about a month.
I am a pisces sun and right now Saturn is square my natal moon in pisces and in December it will square my sun…I am not looking forward to this at all…any ideas what to expect or how this is experienced?
I found that Saturn square Moon was much worse than Saturn square Sun so at least things should get better for you.
Same question as others – worse times in 2017 are when for Pisces mar 16 1973
From Feb to Nov Janie but not constantly. It climaxes around these dates:
23 Feb 2017
19 May 2017 Rx
18 Nov 2017
Saturn Square whole year for Mutable Signs (Pisces / Virgo / Gemini / Sagittarius ) from middle Dec 2016 to middle Dec 2017. Consider whole year is bad even u get Mercury / Sun / Mars Trines sometimes.
I always stick to a one degree orb for transits.
Hello Jamie, born 15/9/73 with rising sun in Virgo moon in Aries , I pass very hard times since 2003 in business and personal life. Just show that suturn will square my sun and following year in Aries. When this means that I will continue to have such hard years? I don’t believe I will get throw more..
The timing of this transit depends on your exact time and place of birth. The bigger problem comes from the last two lunar eclipses which will be resolved with the August/September eclipses. The September 2015 lunar eclipse at 4° Libra and the March 2016 lunar eclipse at 3° Libra triggered the most critical aspect in your birth chart.
At 3° you have Mercury conjunct Pluto, almost exactly square Saturn at 3° Cancer. It gets even more complex with a Yod aspect pattern but you need to research the conjunction first, then:
Mercury square Saturn and Saturn square Pluto. Learn as much as you can by the time of the August 18 lunar eclipse.
Ooh damn this guy I was dating in January and February has Venus at 4 degrees Libra. I guess he wasn’t kidding when he said last September around his birthday he had a dramatic loss (that Sept 2015 lunar eclipse must’ve been the cause). I wasn’t talking to him in March because we were broken up, but I suspect March 2016’s lunar eclipse also “eclipsed”/ended something for him romantically. Poor guy, he can’t catch a break. Hopefully Jupiter’s transit into Libra this September will help him when it conjuncts his Venus.
Thanks for the feedback Sims. The August 18 lunar eclipse will bring to an end the previous lunar eclipse too.
Born on 15/9/73 at 4:30 Athens Greece.
And thank you for the previous comments.
OK, this transit lasts the whole nine or so months but climaxes on these dates:
13 Jan 2017
11 Jul 2017 Rx
08 Oct 2017
Jamie,
I am wondering what this means for me:
Virgo Sun
Libra Ascendant
Aries Moon
I’ll be challenged for 3 more years?! In what ways does this affect my “personalities”? (which, having two opposites in my moon/rising makes me feel like I have two sides to me fighting all the time!)
-Star M
Not three years. This transit only lasts about 10 months is Saturn goes retrograde on the degree, or only a few weeks if not. In astrology you need to be specific with exact dates and time. Find the degrees of your planets and use the transit chart to find the dates of transits.
my name is Hemal Shah, Birthdate : 14 March, 1976 – BOTAD, GUJARAT – COUNTRY : INDIA.
wHAT WILL BE EFFECT OF SATURN TRANSIT AND OTHER PLANET?
There is no benefit for Saturn Square. maybe it helps you to be tough if u survive. Jaime do u agree? Mercury just entered Virgo today!.
Anyways you will get Saturn Square within 5 months, which i am having it already. I have a series of defeat and events that made me feel isolated and depressed even though I clearly had Jupiter Conjunction with Pluto staying from 13 degrees to 16 degrees making Trine on my Virgo Sun.
Saturn Square is bad as Mars Retrograde Conjunction (based on my 30 years life experience)
This is the only major transit to your Sun for the next year., from January to November 2017:
29 Jan
17 Jun retrograde
29 Oct
What will be effect of all transit, eclipse and other planet from SEPT, 2016 TO DEC., 2017
thank you for reply. so, what will be effect of eclipse and other planet from sept., 2016 to DEC., 2017?
Just as I wrote above. Saturn square Sun transit. The only eclipse to affect you is the September 16 lunar eclipse in your decan which I wrote about in your monthly horoscope.
what are positive and negative of eclipse (sept., 2016) and other transit (from Jan to Nov.,2017)
“Most of my Virgo readers have had a wonderful year. Occasionally I will get a comment from a Virgo reader on Twitter who might say, “This year has been terrible. Nothing is going right, and yet, Susan, you say that this past twelve months should have been special.””
This is Susan miller’s August horoscope – I just stopped reading her crap horoscope after this paragraph. How can she not think (or feel cuz she is pisces not the Virgo and Gemini whom can think) about Saturn Square linking Neptune and Jupiter?
This is because Susan like every other writer uses the Solar House System for writing horoscopes. They will say Saturn is in a house or sector instead of looking at the actual aspect to natal Sun. The they can write anything they want because these Houses are so vague. If you write about enough planets in enough Houses then you can cover almost every possibility on life.
Hi Jamie, I would like your advice on my daughter’s marriage. She is thinking of getting married in October 2016 in a civil ceremony and next year a more formal marriage. Her DOB is 11/6/87 and her fiance’s dob is 9/9/87. They are planning a civil ceremony now and a formal wedding later, but I don’t think it would be a good idea for them to be married during mercury retrograde even if they will be “redoing it” next year. What do you think? Thank you.
best period for marriage in this year should be between October 7th and end of November as there will be no Mercury retrograde phase or Mars retrograde phase motion.
Nothing to worry about Deborah, see what I wrote about this specific Mercury retrograde.
Thank you. He is not a US citizen and is here on a tourist visa so it’s complicated; hope everything goes well.