Saturn Neptune Nightmares

Saturn Neptune Nightmares

Saturn and Neptune have come together this last week or so by the barest of margins, in time and space. As expected, it has caused insecurity, confusion, self-doubt, fear and guilt. But I underestimated just how overwhelmingly negative this alignment would be. I have hardly slept this last week, and when I do, it is a continuous nightmare.

I am naturally pessimistic because of Mercury-Venus opposite Saturn in my chart. I often try to overcompensate so I don’t sound too negative. Jupiter trine Ascendant helps me look for the best in everything and everyone.

I thought the Magic Triangle would make Saturn materialize the more spiritual and idealistic nature of Neptune. It might be doing so in subtle ways, but all I see at the moment is disappointment, fear, dread and hopelessness.

In my nightmares, I have been chased, persecuted, punished and tortured for just and unjust reasons. More nightmares, though, have been of a dystopian future full of overcrowding, starvation, desperation, terror, war and death. When I wake, I look at the news and realize this is already the reality for many. 

This retrograde Saturn-Neptune conjunction between fixed stars Scheat and Deneb Kaitos has given evil the ascendancy. But it will not last, and the law of thermodynamics applies to karma as well. For every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction.

I still believe the Magic Triangle will bring us amazing breakthroughs, cures, and solutions. What I hope most for is that it makes us more humane, compassionate and accepting of others.

102 thoughts on “Saturn Neptune Nightmares

  1. I cannot describe the level of negativity others have been facing this past week! Combined with mercury retrograde maybe completely irrelevant…. So many I know have been unfailingly negative and dark and gone deep into their lowest selves. Hoping for that other side to come through!

  2. Neptune is a planet I DREAD- I am fully aware of the creative energy it brings and escapism I used to enjoy so freely while in Pisces. HOWEVER….Its negative side showed up when opposite my 6th house – I couldn’t find any clarity or proper diagnosis for the ongoing pain I had. Nothing made sense for several years until later I realized what was going on – and most of my supposed treatments were unnecessary.

    With Neptune In Aries along with Saturn (now both in my 12th house) my boyfriend and love of my life just decided to take a break from me after 3 years. I am so confused as to why this is going on- yes I have an indication of our imperfections – but this is really a fog my heart can’t figure out. In my Natal chart Neptune is in my 7th house- so all the dreamy love is now met with a rude awakening for me.

    #Heartsick!

    • I compassionately hated this planet too while less ly blaming Saturn because Saturn is being Saturn. But Neptune o boy

  3. “Growing old ain’t for sissies”

    ‘famously attributed to the actress Bette Davis. It signifies that aging can be challenging, requiring resilience and a strong spirit to navigate the physical and mental changes that come with it’

    Bette Davis, Saturn 02°Ari09’53”
    Mundane Saturn 01°Ari54r’

    Your submarine Jamie, it’s like Bette Davis’s second last film Whales of August?

    Bette Davis natal chart https://postimg.cc/23r9zpJ8

    • ‘The Star is a 1952 American drama film directed by Stuart Heisler and starring Bette Davis, Sterling Hayden and Natalie Wood. The plot tells the story of an aging, washed-up actress who is desperate to restart her career. Even though the film was a critical and commercial failure, Bette Davis received an Academy Award nomination for Best Actress.’

      premier 11 December 1952, Saturn conjunct Neptune, sextile Pluto
      https://postimg.cc/MXFSXbQL

      also, Rotanev conjunct Mars and North node. Venus sextile Mercury.

      • Also, the song “Sleepless” by King Crimson (1984)

        In the dream I fall into the sleepless sea
        With a swell of panic and pain
        My veins are aching for the distant reef
        In the crush of emotional waves…

        Alright, get a hold of yourself
        An’ don’t fight it, it’s over your head
        It’s alright, the rumble in your ears
        It’s alright to feel a little fear
        An’ don’t fight it, it’s over your head
        It’s alright, you wake up in your bed…

        Silhouettes like shivering ancient feelings
        They cover my foreign floors and walls
        Submarines are lurking in my foggy ceiling
        They keep me sleepless at night….(etc.)

        source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/king_crimson/sleepless

        • Three of a Perfect Pair, album released 23 March 1984 https://postimg.cc/K3NwVV6Q
          Mundane transits, Saturn-Neptune conjunct Sun, square album Neptune 01Cap24

          In 1984 we were buzzing on George Orwell, and would stay awake all weekend if we could. The American economy had started its recovery, Canada lagged. Hang in there patriots!

          • Incidentally, a pair of threes DO show up at the Singularity, six years apart

            • 10/29/2025 is the date of 3I Atlas perihelion, and if one was to reduce the numbers to a single digit? 3

              Which tells us something, indeed the Europeans and Atlantists are keen on this type of verification, the groveling for Artwork equity for one. ‘Pay Up’ scoundrels, you skipped on consulting while I secured the land and bought your linens and beeds!

            • 10/29/2019 there is a pause in posting the Artwork while communicating with Jamie. The date reduces to 6. I’m enjoying coffee in a coffee shop and someone drops a napkin with a drawing of two eggs cracked and chicks popping out. At the library select books are hanging askew of their normal placement. One of these books contain Robert S De Ropp(1968) Meta Games. I’m being stalked.

            • A pair of hatched chicks, 3, and 6 year numerology.

            • Midpoint year, 10/29/2022 reduces to 9, the planet of Neptune. 3,6,9, is the intuition line, or considering Mercury Rx astrology, creative inspiration.

        • Hi Greg i know another King Crimson song named “Epitaph” written by Pete Sinfield.
          It is a really tragic and desperaze one.
          Also the name of it’s creator “Sin-field” is significant isn’t it ?

    • Hi Paul. I have not seen the film. In this dream I was sitting on a hill looking down at Sydney harbour, over a period of decades. The ocean has receeded and I thought to myself they had started a nuclear war. Every so often a massive submarine would dock. They got bigger each time. It felt post apocalytic and that leaders and the rich lived in these giant subs.

      But I have had dreams about nuclear war before, mainly as a teenager in the 80’s before the wall came down and I watched movies like “The Day After”.

      • There was a bounty of fiction written in the 50s, 60s, and 70s about just what you describe. Day After movie was a seminal event where i lived with a post movie broadcaster having an emotional breakdown. We did the astrology of it here but looking at it again there was some errors where days and years were confused. Neptune in Sagittarius 1970-84 was pretty weird from Scorpios simple formula. Neptune again in a Fire sign.

        • In fairness to the pre-emptive Iran nuclear facility bombing, we presented an alternative philosophy using Saturn and solar eclipse transits, Tunguska and sacrifices. And if you’re an Alien looking at our Solar system, you would watch for that, if our universe is graduated.

    • Time in what is called old age is a trip to experience. What is old age anyway? Oh yeah, it’s physical. How could I forgot the things I don’t hazard to do anymore. If I have to, I have to brace myself and really mentally prepare. Like scaling my two story roof. That was something. The view was worth it and I lived to tell the story. Time. Neptune is having a field day with time.

      • Vic, what you mean with “two story roof”? Is it about having different sides like both saturn and uranus or saturn and neptune ? And to cope with the contradicting inside yrself ?

  4. Remember, Neptune is the news and entertainment. Stay away from it and cleanse your thoughts with prayer/meditation (Saturn discipline with Neptune prayer!). I have natal Saturn and Neptune sextiling my Sun/Pluto. So, I know what I’m talking about! 🙂

    • When Neptune squared natal Saturn, it took a lot of Saturn exercise. I was just coming off taking care of my mom with dimensiona. The RN always corrects my spelling. 🤣

      Anyway I started with doing algebra equations and ended up finding a natural resources program. Worked the wilds for three years doing all sorts of challenging and sometimes treacherous work. But it was nature and was all good. If you ain’t the praying kind, nature is a great tuning fork. It’s everywhere around me and recently I have realized that I am part of it. It is sheer celebration of the creation, if you wanna call it that.

      It reminds me of the early 90s, a-gain. I lived in a huge metropolis then, as I had for many years. As I moved down the streets all I could see was the flora. Everything else disappeared. I guess it was time for the city mouse to go country mouse. 🤣

      I am reading Nick Offerman book about his trip into nature. Not far in, but he wrote we have to stop looking at nature as just a place we travel to for recreation. I get it.

      • And I suppose like any celebration, the debbie downers or donny downers show up sometimes.

      • Hi Vic. Ginkgo biloba is a good herb for avoiding dementia, so long as you don’t take blood-thinning medication. It’s the oldest tree species on earth. We must have evolved eating it.

        • I planted one right outside my bedroom window years ago. Glad it is a slow grower. Have you talk to tree person about how much I can cut it back without killing it.

          Glad you brought it up. So far just breathing it in. Maybe will try some on tea and see what happens. I am careful with herbs. I am a lightweight that way. Like doctor drugs knock me in my butt.

            • And I take the tincture which tastes awful so I have a pineapple juice chaser. I also use a bit of Echinacae. I had mega doses when I had cancer and swear by it now.

        • Just ordered Ginkgo yesterday,along with bacopa,gotu kola and rosemary.

      • Vic i often thought bout WHAT is it which has us devided from nature. I am not so into religion but in the bible it is written that man has chosen the path of knowledge and abondoned the way of life long ago.
        Mabe it is our brain which devides us from pure being like the animals and plants. We wanted to get out of the unity, to live our own imagination of life.
        This is also described as the original sin and we can never fully come back to the origin.
        We must always progress further away and THAT is the true spell of mankind maybe..

        • … so we once had decided to live in our own world which we create inside of what was the original world because we were not willing to accept what the original world was… And now we are responsible for what we created….
          This is also explanation for the – what i call – expansive nature of mankind. There is no real going back to the origin, to nature – it is impossible in the end.
          Just lusten to the song “Back to nature” of the nrw wave band “Magazine” from Howard Devoto. He says the same as i here.

          • And what is the conclusion of it all ?
            We are living in our own madness and there is NO cure, no escape.
            Neither in a tin can called “freedom in space”. Only the next container…

  5. That’s a great hope to have. Especially during this period … negativity, dishonesty and pure evil revealing themselves. Time for everyone to get off the fence. The GOOD and pure of heart need to stand up, stand firm and persevere. Don’t be pushed by fear, suspicion or bitterness. Instead, show by word and deed, in ALL things large and small, what the greater POWER is. The wheel keeps turning, this time too shall pass. Consider, if all who are good, were to stand strong, brave and with grace, in their power … a power which, by example, could sway the fence sitters who dabble in evil despite their essential goodness … Is this not a great opportunity to shine, shine, shine and leave evil to be reduced by shame and slither back into the starvation of the dark. Protect your peace, keep your guard and stay alert. Yet, embrace HOPE, and see, that this time is full of potential to bring all of us closer to the LIGHT! Battle on and be well.

    • Fathom: Your comment today, on my birthday..is a gift of letters. Mahalo. Brave New World/Aldous Huxley looms before us as wanton greed & blind self enrichment at the cost of all others has consumed a large amount of the population. Or perhaps it has always been there, festering, now coming to a head. Your words address this via hope, encouragement, and possibilities. We have no option but continue on the path of peace/equality, expressing love and assistance towards others.

      • Love and assistance to others. I was hoping that is what the comet in Virgo that Jamie wrote about was signifying.

    • Dear Fathom, the law of polarity you cannot change in this world. You always have both sides and you cannot defeat one of them in the end. There will be light and darkness forever, good and evil, construction and destruction, life and death. I dont believe one side will win. I dont believe the monotheistic religious ideology. You have always both, also inside everyone. Maybe in another universe the laws are different. Greez.

  6. Has anyone found that turning off their wireless modem and smart phone helps with demonic dreams?

  7. Gosh, Jamie, I have had some really strange and vivid dreams too! Not so much nightmares, but weird and wild adventures that go on and on, making me sit up and wonder when I wake thinking, “Where did THAT come from?!”

    I’m glad to know that it isn’t just me. Sorry your dreams haven’t been as benign as mine. But it keeps happening every night and I am not feeling very rested in the morning.

    Plus, when I am finally awake, the world is slowly falling apart at the seams. 🥴

  8. It’s humid damp and foggy here in my part of the UK.
    Impossible to sleep, feverish dreams.
    But I’ve been watching all the Live Aid documentaries on iPlayer. 40 years since the Live Aid concert which raised so much money to fight famine in Ethiopia.
    It’s a beautiful story. A dream that was realized and created a lasting legacy. Maybe that is the positive side of Neptune conjoin Saturn ❤️

  9. Thank you Jamie for explaining and yes of all astrologers that i follow up you are most optimistic and i respect this. Regards

  10. The weight of responsibility real or imagined can be a nightmare of self esteem and recrimination. It takes your world view to the extreme., but teaches one to center in the now. This minute am I alright? This minute is my life safe? How we react to threats becomes the everyday life lesson even in our dreams. We learn to stop the world long enough to learn compassion for the lost souls who are the aggressors. We attack out of fear and pain trying to protect an imagined reality. Ideas and reality can become innovative bringing forth wonderful things if we do not give into our self imposed nightmares. We pause as we learn compassion for our selves and each other or we attack like Don Quixote seeing every windmill as a potential threatening monster. We have opportunity to accept ourselves and not make too little or too much of it.

  11. Hi Jamie, Sorry to hear about you having nightmares.I have been having them too with transiting Pluto square my sun for the next couple of years. But as you know well all things pass, even difficult constellations. Are you still living in the beautiful Ballina? One of my favourite towns in Oz. Stay happy, all will be well.

  12. I also experienced heavy dense energy, but was given a powerful lifeline~a lightline amidst the darkness. As you said, the laws of nature do not disappoint, the wheel turns, darkness gives way to the light, winter to spring. Feels like a huge ending… from which new beginnings follow.

    🪷

  13. The only thing I have noticed is that I will abruptly wake up and go from Prone to standing immediately. And I don’t get the dizzies like I normally would after getting up too soon. I must have developed a dream alarm. Like no way this shit is happening to me. I am outta here. So like I am up and have no memory of why.

  14. The twilight zone comes to mind. Dimensions. The day after two different men from different dimensions dropped into my life , I happened to turn on tv and there was some show about these military guys on a submarine who received photos from Pearl Harbor like it was happening now. Someone identified the pics and were confirmed by a guy on. Card who was writing a book that contained the same pics.

    So the thought occurred to me that maybe the magic triangle will involve dimensional travel. Just a thought.

  15. I’d say there’s mass suffering that is being suppressed from the news that nonetheless demands attention

      • Update to the chart I’m using, not as geo-spatially accurate as Jamie’s, but just showing something in context to previous posts.

        https://postimg.cc/G9V1nyD2

        Add Sheratan and pre-natal solar eclipse, and asteroid Poseidon*, as an alternative to the difficult position of Neptune. Outer wheel is Time Stamp Moon, chart from 23 January 2020, which was later used by WHO to announce the pandemic 11 March 2020, nine year (9-Neptune)) anniversary of Fukushima EQ and Tsunami.

        With the Time Stamp Moon we also see that era’s pre natal solar eclipse, EQ Poseidon conj. Stamp stellium and Uranus conj. Sheratan.

        There’s a disaster and we see organized sharing, but plenty of crime, and that’s the heart of the matter. ‘Moon sextile Sun’

        Manga-Vanga vibe:
        “Poseidon* In astrology, the asteroid 4341 Poseidon, named after the Greek god of the sea, is associated with themes of enlightenment, psychic abilities, and the interconnectedness of all things. It can indicate a period of heightened awareness, increased premonitions, and a connection to spiritual or psychic experiences. Poseidon’s influence may also be felt in the realms of media, propaganda, and the power of suggestion. “

        • Probably should add the Summer Solstice chart, where Moon sextile Sun first noted, and a good lesson for studying the Solstice or Equinox astrology, Antiscia and contra antiscia. Something where two time period Moon/Sun sextiles pivots around a New Moon, 24 July, we draw the Time Stamp Moon from 5.5 years ago, 23 January.

          https://postimg.cc/1fnLrT6W

          Other interesting observation: Moon sextile Sun midpoint, find Uranus, square Mars. If we were bold, a prognostication at Summer Solstice with this agitating aspect, you’d be famous!

        • Time Stamp Moon (2020) and Leo New Moon (2025). Synastry is very interesting too, because Time Stamp Moon Uranus at the apex of a T-Square. Look closer and the other two oppositions are same planets, Jupiter-Jupiter, MercuryRx-Mercury

          https://postimg.cc/144fQpbk

          We’ve looked at this axis recently with Tesla Diner (July-2025) synastry Nighthawks (Jan-1942)

          This has become an exercise in art symmetry, that uses real world stuff and experiences. Now take the info, change it (or not), put your name on it, find a customer, and submit invoice.

          • Add asteroid 5456 Merman to Russia Far East EQ 8.7 and Time Stamp Moon.

            The chart shows EQ Sun conjunct Merman, and in TSM, Merman opposite. In mythology Merman is Poseidons Son. In the movies (1963) we see him hold back the earthquake so Jason and the Argonauts may escape.

            https://postimg.cc/xck7Yhbb

            add star Azmidiske, xi Puppis, The Argo Navis, Jason ship, so we know where we are.

  16. Your dream(s) remind me of some of mine . They were before the russian invasion . I’m in my balcony , it’s night and I know it’s not allowed/recommended to stay near the window but i take a look between the balcony curtains . In the garden below , illuminated by searchlight i see and hear a helicopter with two pilots . ( The closest shape /real model i could find is that of a Eurocopter Tiger Twin-engine , with two steps cockpit – , which , for some reason i nicknamed Alligator because of its geometry ) . They’re trying hard to stabilize it’s chaotic movement – up/down , side to side . Something about the engine . Then all of a sudden ..it abruptly collapses and explode , sending toward me /the balcony windows a wave of parts – bolts , foam , plastics . I raise my hands to protect my face/head …and i immediately wake up , heart pumping and soaked in perspiration . This was 1 of 4 .

  17. Hang in there Jamie. Sounds like your psyche is trying to clear your shadow. The entire world is out of balance now and your nightmares of what could be are very real. I live in a nightmare every day as a US citizen. We feel like we are being dragged over glass. But every day I get the message from those higher beings who see beyond our surface situation that the turn for the better is at hand and that the stars we will be reaching will truly be our better future. So much fear. So true. Take it’s hand and lead it to love. Never ignore fear or try to deny it. But know the cure is love. Focus off the news. Watch funny movies. Laugh.
    Hugely challenging times for any sensitive soul. We are in the storm but it has to happen in order to clear the way.
    Sending you loving light.

    • The clearing you mention fid occur to me. When I feel gnarled I get down to the base feeling and let myself really feel it. Then I close my eyes and the images fly by and release in rapid succession. Nothing to dwell on, just them fly.

  18. Jamie,

    I too have Saturn opposite Mercury natal. Also this is square Neptune, so yes I have always been pessimistic. Have had clinical depression. Have also been suffering from nightmares of late, but they are much more disturbing than even yours. All I can say is, we’re all in this together. Together we’re stronger.

    • HI Max. SSRIs have been a great help. My kids refuse to take them and I am so proud of them. Too late for me.

      • Throw in the towel and succumb to the shadow.

        Where’s the fighting spirit?

        The real you relegated to the back seat.

        • Being a single parent of three kids while fighting three cancers, I have no shame about using a crutch to be there for my kids.

          • Re:Too late for me.

            AI Overview
            “Never say never” means that one should not rule out the possibility of something happening in the future, even if it seems unlikely or undesirable now. It’s an expression encouraging open-mindedness and acknowledging that circumstances can change and people’s minds can change.

            It’s never too late.

            Otherwise we seal our fate.

          • Good on you Jamie. I have a holistic GP, who has another hat she wears of training in modalities of more esoteric mental health. Not bog standard,( cathartic at best for me on & off over a decade up to 2022), “psychologist” experience. Unlike most GPs she gets the gut/mind thing & actually knows how to summarise a full bloods nutritional, chemicals tests. Tiny eg, after 2 or 3? annual full bloods, & even tho she had put me on Zinc courses straight up, she suggested i was the type who should pretty much always take it & re bloods occasionally higher than “recommended”. Anyhow, I was just going to say that after declining to go back on SSRIs, (they kept me in a toxic relationship waaay longer re too deadened emotion I reckon), she suggested GABA. A chemical we make in our brain but a good alternative for those who are not willing or not extremely needing “meds”. I’m a highly deeply sensitive & emotional, but learned reserve early type. I can attest to GABA calming the nervous system & so too the mind. It’s a tiny dosage spoon in my container & not tooo exy… Of course I can’t advise on dosage if on SSRIs. I’m on beta blockers, depending, & I was warned not to take both too close to bedtime or my heart may slow too much! Haha. But perfect for stressed occasions for teenagers, lowering the overactive night mind, & something most GPs have never even heard of. They do nutrition for like a few weeks at Uni🙄. My GP,
            Dr Jacqueline Boustany, Nimbin.

            • Great info Kaz. I will get some tomorrow for the whole family. Might be worth a visit to Dr Boustany too. only one hour away!

      • Jamie,

        I use SSRIs as well, but also Cayce’s radial appliance, which I’ve found to be tremendously helpful in times when my energies are low. Give it a try if you can.

        As far as the future predictions, the year 2038 troubles me. That is when Neptune enters Taurus. The prophecies of St. Hildegarde mention this year (indirectly) as some sort of turning point. The year also turns up, interestingly, in the so-called “Pyramid Prophecy” (you should research that, I won’t go into detail here). Some other prophecies indicate that “when Communism returns” is when things will change rapidly (for the worse). Neptune (ideals, delusions) enters Taurus (markets), suggest a new idealism in the economic sphere, but also deluded ideas, dissolution (collapse). Then again, all of this may add up to not much at all, or something very different than what I’m thinking of… still hoping everything will be ok in the end. I may write a book to put all these ideas together.

        Max

  19. I’ve slept poorly and have had night terrors this past week from about the 7th onward. Nightmares I can deal with, I wake up and I’m back in “reality.” Night terrors are more existential dread you can’t shake yourself out of by waking, but just breathe through and hope for some homeostasis at least. To breathe through it is all I can do. I keep a book of Meister Eckhart on the night table just for this. It’s completely opaque and inscrutable reading material except when I’m in hell. It gets me through. I hope you have a ritual or prayer or book that gets you through it, too, Jamie.

    • Hi Melissa. The 7th is midway between Neptune and Saturn turning retrograde. My night terrors are abating now.

  20. You abandoned your spirit. Your life is built on intellectual pride—arrogance dressed as wisdom. Now you reap disaster, exactly what you sowed. You still predict revival? Good. Pay the price—humility and peace will follow. Remember: all men are fools. Liberation demands years of suffering to grasp this truth. You’re no wise astrologer. You’re a fool. Five years or hard inner work to understand this, minimum!

    • I am more interested in how you are a fool as “all man are”. Where’s your humanity? But I guess that is foolish? Humanity is foolish?

      • There’s people who’s income is built on looting social media. And who knows? Trading future chat before the business model implodes?

  21. Jamie, maybe the stars of the sea monster have also a saturn-neptune character.
    Best wishes and dont stress yrself so much. In the end we must accept things if we are not the ones to change them. Many reasons lie deep in history, family roots and karma i think. Consciousness and control you cannot get over all things and our power through knowledge is restricted. Put yr head aside for a moment and listen some music… Always thank you for yr excellent work! Greez 🙋👍

    • Thanks Kalus. My escape is following my team in the footy (rugby league here). Very tribal and a great way to release built up aggression, yelling at the referee. 🙂

  22. THANK YOU JAMIE THESE ARE DEFINITELY STRANGE TIMES…..LOVE YOU!! 🙂

  23. The shadow rises and shows it’s cards,

    this is what dreams are made of.

  24. Regulus Ingress Virgo Progressed chart with 19 July 2025 transits, and a curious story from Sunday Times regarding the exodus of gardeners from King Charles Highgrove estate.

    https://postimg.cc/jwCcqsnC

    The Sun aligns with progressed Moon in a t- square with Jupiter opposite Saturn.
    Mars conjunct Ascendant and also Mars return
    Neptune 6th house, dissolving service workers.
    Uranus involved with Saturn- Neptune

    He’s into low wage labour and kings grammar, and entertaining tribal royalty. But I think gardening isn’t the same as leading by breeding, and his parents knew it.

    Sunday Times article
    https://archive.is/ACHoa

  25. I am kinduv liking this Neptune thing in that it brought out movies, states of mind, and even drugs. All things that force me to balance reality.

    I am moon sextile Jupiter natally so no matter what bad crap happens I end up rosy somehow. It makes people irritated. I’ve said it before and I am saying it again. It was pointed out to me years ago, “what right do you have to be happy, you have nothing.” There are drawbacks like getting suckered by them criminals.

    I saw a documentary that there is actually a happy disorder of some kind. Same drawback.

  26. In same vein, just read an op ed that speaks to how to fight this awful thing happening in America. The writer states screaming about it is the usual tack. But suggests that keeping your compassion and finding joy are acts of resistance. The social fabric that is being trashed needs to be maintained.

    • I misquoted the writer, Michael Plant, it’s keeping your ‘composure’ and finding joy are acts of resistance. Much better.

  27. I am gonna settle on this one for now, happiness can be unsettling to those from a negative environment. They’ve got a disorder too.

  28. Hi Jamie, I really love this post and I want to thank you for writing it (and sending it out on an email where I received it). I really appreciate you sharing your inner thoughts/experiences so publicly. I much appreciate the idea that it’s possible to be ‘naturally pessimistic’ because of your chart (not sure what it is in my chart – but I’m sure there’s something – maybe it’s not just a fault of character after all.) And I love the last sentence. Holding hope while also speaking to the fears and darkness we’re all facing, is a strong and brave thing to do. Thank you

    • Now – the monotheisic religions believe in the light and the good but often spreaded total darkness.
      The satanists believe in darkness and the reign of satan.
      Again this is the theme of polarity. But there are not only total darkness and otherwise only light – there is so much in between…
      Johann Wolfgang Goethe wrote: I am the evil which provokes the good – and my personal observation is that people who are like good angels in their life often don’t get rewarded by destiny for that. Maybe you can say this has karmic reasons… But if not ? Cuz in the logic of the monotheistic religions god shall reward you if you try to be good. So it is possible that the other way around if you try to be only lighful and opress the dark side you create it in the end.
      This is also a problem of “positive thinking” new age and “esoteric” light working people that they deny the dark side so it will come back to them.
      Just some thoughts..

  29. Hi Jamie! Just wanted to comment in support of your post. I’ve had Saturn in the 12 in Pisces and it’s been three years of emotional hell. I feel like Saturn Neptune in Aries is a continuation of that. Technically Saturn is still in my 12th, but now I can better comprehend what is happening.

    I notice a lot of vaporousness. I’m in the US and there are a lot of things the look really scary, and some of them actually happen but many of them amount to nothing, or we don’t hear about the success of efforts to stop certain things from happening. For example, out of all the lawsuits against the administration, a very high percentage of them have injunctions preventing them from taking place.

    I think many astrologers underestimated this transit. I keep seeing how it won’t be exact until 2026 and yet it’s been 20 minutes apart. We’re definitely in the conjunction and will be until April, IMO. When Saturn finally picks up speed a lot of the now-you-see-it-now-you-don’t will end. That’s my prediction, at least.

    The good news I suppose is that we know what we’re dealing with now. Once I finally dial in the astrological influence, I can get a strategy for it. But also, with Neptune in Aries, those of us with eyes to see can see the fog. I am clear on what I am creating, but I see a lot of uncertainty in others.

    As I reached a certain point in my own evolution, the transits don’t happen to me, they happen in the people around me. And I see a lot of people who think things are a good idea but lack substance. Many of these folks are people who are just waking up to the reality of what is happening in America. They’re just trying to figure things out, but others have already been down that road and know that it won’t work.

    I also see a lot of spiritual teachers saying that people are afraid to try new things. I don’t think it’s fear. I think it’s that the old stuff don’t work and they just don’t know what to do. Or, they’re like me and they have tried a lot of new things and nothing works. There is certainly an element of timing here and in some ways we’re not going to see any traction until February-March-April, as Saturn pulls away from Neptune.

    This isn’t punishment. I see it really as a way to eliminate wasted effort. If you really want to do it or if you feel really inspired or called or lit up — you’re going to do it anyway. If you’re not, you won’t.

    I recently made the decision to go back to school, because Saturn was pushing me to the edge. I knew that I just didn’t want to continue doing what I have been doing, and I needed to take a radical step. I started back to school for cybersecurity and decided I was going to do it regardless of the uncertainty.

    I expected there to be disruptions, frustrating situations and tests of patience. But the time would pass anyway and I’d rather have some new skills for the new paradigm. It has been bumpy for sure, LOL. But I’ve been in school all of 2025 and making progress toward my degree.

    This is one of those examples! I want change so badly in my life that I am willing to do this through the uncertainty.

    • *I think it’s that the old stuff don’t work and they just don’t know what to do.

      • Sorry for the multiple comments! I was trying to fix my error. That should say *I think it’s that the old stuff does NOT work and they just don’t know what to do.

  30. Sean Morey (1953) has Saturn conjunct Neptune, singer and humorist, The Man Song, example, and a further example is David Justice and Halle Berry recent relationship insight from stuff 30 years ago.

    • Jamie talks about dystopia in his dreams and that could show up in gender dysphoria, if one has an aspect transiting Saturn-Neptune, the malaise of this conjunction nearing the Equinox degree, susceptible to contacts with semi-squares or sesqui-squares, needing fortitude to work through a period of self therapy. Theatre happens, cry or laugh?

  31. Samuel Mason, 8 November 1739, Norfolk, Virginia. He’s a character right out the movie (1962) How The West Was Won. Mercury on the cusp of Revolution and Rebellion, and if you read his biography, his participation in the Revolutionary War circa 1777 and the lawlessness that followed are well documented.

    https://postimg.cc/JGnRSXsw

    A minor Grand Trine, Saturn sextile Neptune, and Venus sextile Saturn, but intriguing Neptune in Aquarius and Pluto in Aries.

    The point is there is an atmosphere there we could see a war draw to a close, and there are are a raft of people who will likely set off on to other pursuits, but will there be a void of lawlessness? In Ukraine, for instance when structure breaks down? The reverse is true, USA cities with a martial law feel, that will eventually rescind, and something else takes its place?

    • In Samuel Mason chart the year of birth should read 1739, which makes the technical notes invalid.

      Corrected chart https://postimg.cc/xqhJt0zM
      Neptune trine Pluto, water signs. Saturn In Cancer, along with Neptune. In Masons life, Saturn-Neptune transit conjunction occurs in 1773, Mercury also conjunct. Boston tea Party 16 December 1773. “Saturn–Neptune is linked to a fear of what we cannot control” Maybe this phrase crystallizes the pre revolution, and in certain other places, the here and now?

      • Boston Tea Party chart, 16 December 1773, time set for 7:45pm.
        https://postimg.cc/VS4bjjRf

        The Sun being close to Winter Solstice, the shortest day, the event itself long discussed and planned. Tea is dumped the night of 16 December, and generally selecting a decent time, 7:45pm to do the deed and everyone back to the pub or meeting hall, or on the way home without arousing riot spirits.

        Saturn-Neptune wide orb conjunction, opposite Jupiter 00Ari17. The chart shows today’s transits, and one can see we are in a Boston Tea Party Saturn-Neptune opposition period.

        If you are wondering about astrology of todays tariffs, for example, the ‘out-in-open ‘ energy of 1773/2025 opposition has an Historical script that deserves consideration.

        • Baltimore Coal Party, if anyone searching for a modern reference? 18 August 2025, around 6:30pm. Coal cargo explosion.

          Chart with Boston Tea Party transits
          https://postimg.cc/JDdNw9GH

          Francis Key bridge ramming and collapse, a fairly in depth astrology last year around Zero Point Aries. And we see a yod in Coal Party chart, Moon sextile Sun, apex ascendant, conjunct Pluto.

          • Heliocentric Baltimore Coal Party with Boston Tea Party transits

            https://postimg.cc/142jR1wH

            Saturn-Neptune Tea Party only 1° orb, and Uranus-Venus align with Coal explosion. Chart includes Vesta in a semi-square midpoint to Mars-Pluto square. That might be ‘Burning man/woman’ plasma tornado on the Sun, as it appears to be two of them?

          • Boston Tea Party having its 3rd Uranus return in 2025. Notice the Boston tourist ads pop up on the page? Throw tea in the harbor. Visiting these type of places has its charm. Astrology Jupiter at zero point 00Aries17, the redcoats, would hold their fire until they see the whites in your eyes, with that in mind, a Jupiter-Saturn sextile to Era chart Jupiter-Saturn. When does Saturn retrograde to 00Ari17? August 28

  32. https://postimg.cc/xkgwhj00

    Chart shows Tea Party Jupiter conjunct SaturnRx on August 28. Notable for a yod Haumea-Moon apex, Uranus sextile Saturn-Neptune. Good time for family planning? Haumea is about fertility and natural processes.

    Saturn-Neptune opposition, and Uranus return, and also Virgos Solar eclipse, cusp of beauty. Venus trine NNode, water signs. Chart ruler Mercury, maybe more talk and thinking here, than action.

    • On 28 August post Virgo Solar Eclipse trine Uranus, the overall chart appears to hinge on Node axis, both Tea Party and Jupiter-Saturn conjunction study. Other astrologers mention: ‘There is a lunar eclipse during the full moon in Pisces on September 7 and a solar eclipse in Virgo on September 21.’ If one goes down the revenue road, is the work above a head start to a personal (computer driven) report?

      Notice the Large Learning triangle with signature planets Uranus, Venus, Moon-Huamea? Huamea is a special guest, timely. Astrology can help out our global health worries, especially with children or future children. What I’m seeing? Universe won’t abandon its work here, ie. natural processes.

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