Taliban Horoscope

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In June 2010 the Taliban have inflicted the heaviest monthly death toll on the allies so for in the war in Afghanistan. “June 7, 2010, marked the 104th month of US military engagement in Afghanistan, making it the longest war in the history of the United States” [wiki].

This week president Obama gave his political rival, General David Petraeus control over military operations in Afghanistan. I am going to look at the chart of the Taliban to see why they are such a thorn in the side of America, and compare their chart to that of the USA.

Taliban Horoscope

The data for the chart comes from Astro Databank. Rising the is military fixed star Regulus: Great honor and wealth, but violence and trouble, sickness, fevers, acute disease, benefits seldom last, favor of the great, victory over enemies and scandal.” On the Midheaven is the Sword Hand of Persues, Capulus, just next to Algol “If culminating: Murder, sudden death, beheading, prone to murder and mischief”

Taliban Horoscope

Taliban Horoscope

Most importantly for this crucial year of the war, the Taliban Sun is on Zaniah “An attribute of Zaniah can be seen in the Mercury-Venus-in-Libra talent for negotiating peace. One attribute which a good commander must surely need is an intuition for knowing to call a halt to battle and either offer or seek terms for peace. If well aspected and on the right planet, Mercury, Venus, Sun, or Jupiter for example this is what will show up in the horoscope. With Mars or Saturn the terms for peace may be too harsh for acceptance”.

This year, transiting Pluto is squaring the Taliban Sun. The June 2010 Lunar Eclipse also squared the Taliban Sun. This year transiting Saturn is on the Taliban Sun, which is opposite Natal Saturn. This year is crunch time, the Afghanistan government want to deal with the Taliban, and the USA want out. With those harsh aspects, and having Sun opposite Saturn, I’m not sure the Taliban will want to negotiate unless they are given a power-sharing deal. It will depend on how badly the USA want to end this war, and if she is willing to face another humiliation like Vietnam.

24 thoughts on “Taliban Horoscope

  1. “The Taliban in Afghanistan have told the BBC that there is no question of their entering into any kind of negotiations with Nato forces. It comes after US commanders and the British army chief of staff, Gen David Richards, suggested that it might be useful to talk to the Taliban.” BBC

  2. Hi Jamie,

    Very interesting the data on the Taliban and your reading of the fixed stars in the chart.

    I had predicted some difficulty for the USA this summer, including:

    As Ketu is placed in the 12th house of foreign matters it is likely that SOME SUDDEN FOREIGN SITUATION WILL DEVELOPE THAT WILL DISTURB THE COMMUNAL HARMONY, POSSIBLY A MILITARY CONFLICT OR RELATED EVENT. A contentious racial or ethnic issue could also explode on the scene. AS THE YEAR OPENS, THE US IS ENGAGED IN A BATTLE WITH THE TALIBAN IN AFGHANISTAN, managing the situation in Iraq and concerned about Al-Queda terrorist training camps in Jemen. Nuclear ambitions of Iran are burning a long fuse in Washington, but with Israel especially concerned. SUCH TROUBLE SPOTS COULD FLARE UP IN THE SUMMER or new ones emerge.
    cosmologer.blogspot.com/2009/12/predictions-for-usa-in-2010.html

    If it’s not an imposition, I’d be interested what you see in the SAMVA USA chart with respect to the fixed stars.

    The SAMVA USA chart
    SAMVA USA chart is a mundane astrology horoscope for the United States of America. The chart is based on the event when Maryland became the 13th and final state to approve the ratification of the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union at 5:00 PM on February 2, 1781 in Annapolis, Maryland. In doing so, the USA effectively came into being as a Perpetual Union. The horoscope was rectified as having 20° Cancer rising (sidereal) using the Systems’ Approach to Vedic Astrology. As Philadelphia (75W10, 39N57) was the capital of the union being formed, this city should be used as the location for the rectified chart with a time of 16:58:33.

  3. The Taliban event chart is interesting with this potent T and Mars conj Lilith both aspecting Jupiter and nodes – and Neptune trine MC

    The Taliban have this invisibility factor built in to their ops – its hard to pin them down – now they’re here, now there, now where – US are dealing with a force that uses its knowledge of the terrain and its cloaking, infiltration, undercover qualities and hidden, random explosive devices to great effect – the war in Afghanistan is far from clean and clear-cut – and even if there is a crunch this year, either way, does anyone really think this will mean the demise of the Taliban?

    So, bearing this in mind, and given this is an event and not a natal chart, I followed a hunch….

    The event chart has Sun opp Saturn with Jupiter T’d to both – noticed Pluto, not exactly on IC, but in aspect to Uranus and Saturn – following hunch I checked to see when Pluto hits Tal event Jupiter – its 13th Dec 2012 – on this date there is a new Moon which falls directly on Sibly Asc

    This may be an out there extrapolation but my hunch is that the crunch, if not the Taliban down-fall, then the US ascendency over this conflict, or perhaps its fall-out, will be sealed round this time

    Is there a natal chart we can use for the Taliban???

  4. …but, then you never know….negotiation? With event chart Mercury conj Sibly Lilith Neptune……not yet, not yet…..

  5. Sorry to hog – but just realised Astrodatabank IS calling this event chart the birth date of the Taliban – can that be right??

  6. Rob, that Taliban chart is for when they gained control of Afghanistan to form a government. Even though they were forced from government by the USA, it is really the only option we have for a horoscope.

  7. Rob and Thor, Thanks for that feedback. I’m not very focussed at the moment so will respond properly later. It does seem that no matter what technique, chart, style of astrology is being used, astrologers are all seeing the same thing here. The timing does seem to revolve around August when the Saturn-Uranus-Pluto T-square is in tightest orb.

  8. @Jamie
    Sure Jamie, no rush – all in good time. Most important is to enjoy life – and what better time for that than the summer season!

    The beauty of effective astrology methods is to be able to see in advance when strains are likely to emerge and not to get swept up in the events or the associated emotion. That said, in addition to effective methods, authentic natal charts are really important. The two together explain not only the historical trends and significant events of a country, but yield accurate predictions of future trends and events as well!

    As you and Marina are in the UK and Australia, the following information may be of interest. The following (standard) UK chart has yielded good results with SA methods.
    cosmologer.blogspot.com/2009/01/horoscope-of-united-kingdom.html

    For Australia the event when the constitution came into force at midnight (00.00) on January 1, 1901 in Melbournethe, giving a 15° Virgo (sidereal) rising chart, appears to be a good candidate.

  9. @Jamie

    seems the likely canditate for natal – was just wondering as their first military action resulted in the taking of Kandahar over 3-5 Nov 1994

    but, hey, enjoy the SUN……

  10. Thor, regrads the Australian chart, this has been debated on Noel Tyl’s forum extensively. I’m quoting from Alice McDermott: “The Swearing -In Chart, the most useful for anything to do with government and international politics, is mapped for when Australia became a Commonwealth on 1st January 1901. The timing is when the Governor General, Prime Minister and Members of Parliament took their Oath of Office in Sydney, New South Wales. The time of 1.35.42 pm has been recorded on film and slightly rectified by Gwen Stoney (deceased), who was one of the most respected research astrologers in Australia.” noeltyl.com/discussion/index.php?PHPSESSID=dbe80a2ae8e98dd38e3b29b2aa4b3cbb&topic=737.0

    I use the recorded time of 1:35 pm and found it excellent when looking at transits from major events, Gallipoli landing, Darwin bombing, One Tree nuclear test and the Whitlam sacking.

    I haven’t had a chance to check out this SAMVA USA chart you have used. It does seem that the Sibly is the most widely used by noted astrologers, eg Greene, Blaschke and Hand. I have looked into it and think it works very well. The big advantage of the Sibley (apart from my thinking it is the best one) is that most astrologers do use it so we can be on the same page when discussing astrology of the USA. Do check out the mundane astrology on Noel Tyl’s Forum. There is a lively debate there at the moment about various USA charts, and it is the very best forum for mundane astrology.

  11. Rob, rainy day in London so I thought I should get back to posting so I don’t get too rusty 🙂

    I haven’t looked into the first military action of the Taliban. I guess the advantage of the chart we have is that we have a documented time, and it does represent when they gained total control. It is like a national horoscope, like any other in that way. If the Taliban ever ruled Afghanistan again, we would have a new chart for them. It is a good example of keeping an open mind when deciding which chart to use for a nation or any group or company even.

    I treat mundane astrology the same as natal astrology, so I want to know which event represents most the “birth”. It varies depending on the situation, but usually there is one specific event which defines the nation or group. All those conjunctions in the synastry between the USA Sibly and the Taliban charts confirmed it for me, plus looking at the chart itself with the fixed star descriptions and the aspects just makes so much sense.

  12. @Jamie
    Thanks Jamie, for the heads up on the Noel Tyl mundane astrology forum. Astro.com also has a popular astrology forum. I read Tyl’s books many, many years ago and liked them. I have no strong view on the Australia chart, as my efforts on it are still exploratory. I’ll check out the event suggested by you. As for the USA chart, I discovered the SAMVA USA chart after a decade long search and found the event it is based on with the assistance of historical scholar John T.W.B. in end 2006. Since then, I have been researching it and discussing on SAMVA discussion list and presenting the key findings on my blog. With regard to your statement that plurality makes right, I would only mention that if the financial collapse taught us anything about groupthink it is that it can create legitimacy for herd behavior based on wrong assumptions. In my humble oppinion, the same is likely true of any chart involving the Declaration of Independece (DOI), including the Sibly chart. The fact is that the states and colonies that were united to declare their independence did so as independent entities not as a single entity. It is my contention that this entity, the USA, came formally into being with 13th and final ratification of the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union. [wiki – Perpetual Union]
    The many accurate predictions against this chart are the measuring rod for its worth – and of any chart for that matter. All the best.

  13. @Jamie

    Thanks Jamie for the clarification

    I’m in London at the mo too and well, we had weather today! South of the river mind….

    Can you recommend good resouces (‘part from your goodselves) for getting into the fixed stars

    My ancestors (both branches of the family) were navigators, ocean goers and travellers, stargazers for direction…..feels right to reclaim

  14. @rob
    The best information on the fixed stars and constellations is online and free. Anne Wright has put all the best information in one place at Constellations of Words. All the mythology, etymology and interpretations for stars, constellations and lunar mansions from various cultures. I find the best place to start there is with the named stars in constellationsofwords.com/stars/Stars_in_longitude_order.htm

  15. “The last time Saturn and Pluto both aspected the USA Midheaven (Pluto conjunct, Saturn square) was in 1973-74 when the USA extricated itself from Vietnam, and the Watergate scandal claimed Nixon.”

    The Watergate scandal last time, now the WikiLeaks Afghan War Diary.

  16. In a daring raid on May 1st 2011 a group of special service agents killed Bin Laden. Does anyone know the time?

  17. “7:01 p.m.: Mr. Obama told that it was a “high probability” that Bin Laden had been killed.” New York Times

    Pakistan is 9 hours ahead of Washington.

  18. Remarkable things here. I am very glad to peer your article. Thanks so much and I’m looking forward to contact you. Will you kindly drop me a e-mail?

  19. Afghan government representatives and Taliban insurgents held talks in Doha on Saturday as violence raged in their country amid the withdrawal of foreign forces. Talks were due to resume on Sunday, a spokeswoman for the Afghan team in Doha told AFP.
    Representatives of the Afghan government and the Taliban met in Doha for talks on Saturday, AFP correspondents said, as violence rages in the country with foreign forces almost entirely withdrawn.
    The two sides have been meeting on and off for months in the Qatari capital, but the talks have lost momentum as the insurgents have made battlefield gains.
    Several high-ranking officials, including former Afghan former chief executive Abdullah Abdullah, gathered in a luxury hotel on Saturday after morning prayers.
    They were joined by negotiators from the Taliban’s political office in Doha.
    Former president Hamid Karzai had also been due to travel to Doha but remained in Kabul, according to a source.
    “The high level delegation is here to talk to both sides, guide them and support the (government) negotiating team in terms of speeding up the talks and have progress,” said Najia Anwari, the spokeswoman for the Afghan government negotiating team in Doha.
    “We expect that it (will) speed the talks and… in a short time, both sides will reach a result and we will witness a durable and dignified peace in Afghanistan,” she told AFP.
    ‘Ready for dialogue’.
    The Taliban have capitalised on the last stages of the withdrawal of US and other foreign troops from Afghanistan to launch a series of lightning offensives across the country.
    “We are ready for dialogue, for talks and negotiations, and our priority is to solve the problems through dialogue,” Taliban spokesman Muhamad Naeem told the Al Jazeera broadcaster ahead of Saturday’s talks.
    “The other side must have a true and sincere will to end the problems.”
    Talks between the government and the Taliban side led by Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar began with Koranic recitations, Naeem tweeted Saturday.
    Pakistan on Saturday partially reopened its side of the southern border crossing with Afghanistan, shut after the Taliban seized control of the strategic Afghan frontier town of Spin Boldak from government forces last week.
    Muhammad Tayyab, a local paramilitary official, said the decision was taken because of “relative calm on the other side”, but that the crossing would remain closed to trade.
    The Taliban have also tightened their grip on the north, with clashes continuing Saturday in the stronghold of infamous warlord Abdul Rashid Dostum, that borders Turkmenistan.
    Also on Saturday, the French government flew out around 100 of its citizens and Afghans working for the embassy from the capital, as security deteriorated, a French diplomatic source said.
    Several other countries including India, China, Germany and Canada have flown out their citizens or told them to leave in recent days.
    There have been weeks of intensifying fighting across Afghanistan, with the Taliban pressing multiple offensives and overrunning dozens of districts at a staggering rate.
    Taliban onslaught.
    As fighting raged over large swathes of Afghanistan, a war of words was also heating up between Kabul and Islamabad, after the Afghan vice president accused the Pakistani military of providing “close air support to Taliban in certain areas”.
    Pakistan strongly denied the claim, with a foreign ministry statement saying the country “took necessary measures within its territory to safeguard our own troops and population”.
    Islamabad had touted a conference of regional leaders to address the spiralling violence.
    Instead it announced it would delay the summit until after the Muslim Eid al-Adha feast, due to start next week at the end of the annual hajj pilgrimage, clearing the way for the Doha gathering.
    Afghanistan’s southern border has long been a flashpoint in relations with its eastern neighbour.
    Pakistan’s Balochistan province has been home to the Taliban’s top leadership for decades, along with a large contingent of reserve fighters who regularly enter Afghanistan to bolster their ranks.
    Foreign troops have been in Afghanistan for nearly two decades following the US-led invasion launched in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.
    They have appeared largely out of the picture in recent months, but fears are growing that Afghan forces will be overwhelmed without the vital air support they provide.
    The speed and scale of the Taliban onslaught have caught many by surprise, with analysts saying it appears aimed at forcing the government to negotiate on the insurgents’ terms or suffer complete military defeat.

    Taliban fictive horoscope.
    21 september 1994.
    Kandahar.
    Wednesday.
    09h,51m31s0.
    G.M.T. : 05h,21m31s.

    14-Apr-2021 022°,46’25 Pisces Moon 45 AR05
    26-Apr-2021 023°,10’49 Pisces Moon 120 AR04
    27-Apr-2021 023°,13’23 Libra Sun 150 mutual Moon

    3-May-2021 023°,24’37 Pisces Moon * MARKAB (MARS – MERC )
    5-May-2021 023°,28’51 Pisces Moon 150 Merc
    9-May-2021 023°,37’05 Pisces Moon 150 MC
    17-May-2021 023°,52’32 Pisces Moon 150 C-12
    21-May-2021 021°,08’30 Libra C-11 180 AR02
    23-May-2021 006°,08’47 Pisces Sat 135 mutual C-11
    27-May-2021 017°,44’12 Scorpio Ven 45 AR08

    11-Jun-2021 +01°,36’51 Moon // C-11
    20-Jun-2021 016°,38’41 Scorpio C-12 60 Chiron
    22-Jun-2021 025°,06’46 Pisces Moon 135 Ven

    6-Jul-2021 006°,08’30 Pisces Sat 45 AR02
    9-Jul-2021 020°,36’31 Virgo MC 120 Nep
    15-Jul-2021 025°,52’44 Pisces Moon 120 Plu
    16-Jul-2021 025°,56’21 Pisces Moon 180 C-11
    17-Jul-2021 020°,37’58 Capricorn Nep 120 mutual MC
    17-Jul-2021 008°,52’32 Sagittarius Asc 45 C-12
    31-Jul-2021 023°,28’51 Libra Sun 0 Merc

    7-Aug-2021 026°,39’41 Pisces Moon 120 mutual Plu
    24-Aug-2021 023°,32’41 Libra Sun 135 AR10
    25-Aug-2021 027°,16’23 Pisces Moon 60 AR06

    16-Sep-2021 028°,00’39 Pisces Moon 180 Sun
    20-Sep-2021 023°,37’05 Libra Sun 60 MC

  20. Taliban leadership transition 1. On 25 May 2016, the Taliban published a statement on its official Pashto and Dari web pages that acknowledged the killing of Akhtar Mansour and the appointment of Haibatullah Akhundzada as his successor. The statement confirmed that Mansour was killed on 21 May “between Registan district of Kandahar and Noshki district of Baluchistan”.1 It added that the appointment of Haibatullah Akhundzada as Mansour’s successor had been reached by consensus of the Taliban leadership council. The statement also confirmed Mullah Yaqub (not listed) and Sirajuddin Jallaloudine Haqqani (TAi.144) as deputies. 2 The death of Akhtar Mansour has since been confirmed by several Member States. Those interlocutors of the Team emphasized that, in contrast to the appointment of Akhtar Mansour as the successor of Mullah Omar3 in July 2015, the appointment of Haibatullah Akhundzada seemed to have been a relatively swift and uncomplicated process. While Mansour was forced to negotiate, compel and bribe several key commanders of the Taliban to swear allegiance to him in 2015, Haibatullah Akhundzada received loyalty assurances from all major Taliban power centres within weeks of his appointment.

    Taliban.

    Progressive aspect.

    25-May-2016 019°,31’59 Capricorn Moon 0 C—3

    Transits.

    25-May-2016 017°,09’27 Capricorn Plu 60 Drac
    25-May-2016 013°,43’52 Sagittarius Sat 120 Moon

    PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS CONTINUED TO TAKE THE LEAD IN PEACE TALKS AS HE SIGNED A HISTORIC PEACE AGREEMENT WITH THE TALIBAN IN AFGHANISTAN, WHICH WOULD END AMERICA’S LONGEST WAR.
    • On February 2, 2020, the Trump Administration signed a preliminary peace agreement with the Taliban that sets the stage to end America’s longest war.
    o Under the agreement, the U.S. will withdraw nearly 5,000 troops from the country in 135 days in exchange for a Taliban agreement to not allow Afghanistan to be used for transnational terrorism.
     Time Magazine reported that other components of the agreement included an agreement that U.S. counterterrorism forces stay in the country, permissions for the CIA to operate in Taliban-held areas, and details of how the Taliban’s promises to reduce violence will be monitored and verified.
    o The deal has been called the ” best chance to end this conflict ,” a ” decisive move ” towards peace, and ” the best path ” for the United States.
    o The war in Afghanistan is the longest in U.S. history, a conflict that has killed more than 3,500 U.S. and NATO troops and cost U.S. taxpayers nearly 900 billion dollars.
    o As part of the peace agreement, the Taliban and the Afghan government recently began historic peace, talks which would end decades of war that Afghanistan has consumed.
     The negotiations will cover the terms of a ” permanent ceasefire, the rights of women and minorities, and the disarmament of the country’s many militia groups .”

    Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan between the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban and the United States of America February 29, 2020 which corresponds to Rajab 5, 1441 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Hoot 10, 1398 on the Hijri Solar calendar A comprehensive peace agreement is made of four parts: 1. Guarantees and enforcement mechanisms that will prevent the use of the soil of Afghanistan by any group or individual against the security of the United States and its allies. 2. Guarantees, enforcement mechanisms, and announcement of a timeline for the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Afghanistan. 3. After the announcement of guarantees for a complete withdrawal of foreign forces and timeline in the presence of international witnesses, and guarantees and the announcement in the presence of international witnesses that Afghan soil will not be used against the security of the United States and its allies, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban will start intra-Afghan negotiations with Afghan sides on March 10, 2020, which corresponds to Rajab 15, 1441 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Hoot 20, 1398 on the Hijri Solar calendar. 4. A permanent and comprehensive ceasefire will be an item on the agenda of the intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations. The participants of intra-Afghan negotiations will discuss the date and modalities of a permanent and comprehensive ceasefire, including joint implementation mechanisms, which will be announced along with the completion and agreement over the future political roadmap of Afghanistan. The four parts above are interrelated and each will be implemented in accordance with its own agreed timeline and agreed terms. Agreement on the first two parts paves the way for the last two parts. Following is the text of the agreement for the implementation of parts one and two of the above. Both sides agree that these two parts are interconnected. The obligations of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban in this agreement apply in areas under their control until the formation of the new post-settlement Afghan Islamic government as determined by the intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations.

    Transits.

    2-Feb-2020 023°,28’51 Capricorn Plu 90 Merc
    3-Feb-2020 017°,09’27 Pisces Nep 120 Drac
    3-Feb-2020 002°,53’09 Taurus Ura 60 AR11
    3-Feb-2020 -22°,05’07 Plu // Ura

    29-Feb-2020 019°,31’52 Capricorn Jup 0 C–3
    29-Feb-2020 002°,53’09 Pisces Merc 120 AR11
    29-Feb-2020 -22°,01’05 Jup // C—3

    Progressive aspects.

    1-March-2020 008°,48’01 Pisces Moon * SKAT (SAT – JUP )
    1-March-2020 017°,53’15 Scorpio Ven 135 AR11

  21. The Taliban refused to hand over bin Laden to the USA on September 21, 2001.

    21-Sep-2001 029°,45’24 Leo MC * REGULUS (MARS – JUP )

  22. Horoscope Joe Biden.

    14-Apr-2021 009°,56’57 Aries C–2 60 Sat
    1-May-2021 000°,00’00 Pisces Moon Nw
    29-May-2021 021°,32’54 Aquarius Asc 90 Merc
    20-Jul-2021 016°,31’09 Aquarius Sun 135 Nep
    25-Aug-2021 029°,42’35 Sagittarius C-11 120 Drac
    26-Aug-2021 004°,45’31 Pisces Moon 135 C-11
    14-Sep-2021 -15°,50’35 Sun // C-12
    18-Sep-2021 029°,46’11 Sagittarius C-11 180 Black Moon
    23-Sep-2021 008°,57’50 Sagittarius MC * ANTARES (MARS – JUP )
    23-Sep-2021 005°,51’47 Pisces Moon 150 mutual Plu
    24-Sep-2021 025°,35’17 Leo Drac 135 mutual C–2
    12-Oct-2021 016°,45’06 Aquarius Sun 135 mutual Nep
    18-Oct-2021 006°,53’29 Pisces Moon 45 mutual C-12
    21-Oct-2021 014°,46’11 Taurus C–3 45 Black Moon

    Transits.

    27-Aug-2021 014°,46’11 Taurus Ura 45 Black Moon
    29-Aug-2021 019°,41’48 Virgo Mars 0 MC
    2-Sep-2021 +04°,04’52 Mars // MC
    4-Sep-2021 +15°,50’35 Ura # C-12
    20-Sep-2021 007°,13’30 Aquarius Sat 180 Plu
    26-Sep-2021 021°,26’53 Pisces Nep 45 Pars

    Horoscope USA.

    13-Aug-2021 002°,56’41 Scorpio Sat 120 mutual C-12
    15-Aug-2021 000°,55’54 Taurus Ven 60 AR02
    24-Aug-2021 002°,58’20 Cancer C-12 0 Ven
    26-Aug-2021 +13°,23’52 Ven // mutual C–2
    26-Aug-2021 026°,00’42 Capricorn Moon 120 mutual Nep

    Kabul suicide attack on August 26, 2021.

    Transit.

    26-Aug-2021 008°,26’19 Aquarius Sat 90 Asc
    .

    The USA has MC 16 degrees Leo.
    And Ascendant 9 degrees Scorpio.
    Pars Fortunae 21 degrees Gemini.
    Chiron 21 degrees Aries.

    11 September 2001 WTC attack horoscope has MC 17 degrees Cancer = square Twelve House cusp 17 degrees Libra.
    Ascendant and Mercurius in 15 degrees Libra = conjunct USA Saturn 15 degrees Libra.
    There are other connections.

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