Venus Square Saturn Natal and Transit

Venus Square Saturn TransitVenus square Saturn natal is one of the most challenging aspects of all. Two of the most important things in life are love and happiness, and these things seem even more important to you because they are more difficult to achieve than for other people. You will often feel like you are denied what you most want in life.

Feelings of rejection, isolation, and loneliness can start at an early age. How you deal with this throughout life depends greatly on how much love you received from your parents, especially your father. Along with love, you will have needed encouragement and support to boost your self-esteem. If you were subject to criticism or abuse, then this aspect will be harsher in adulthood, leading to bouts of depression.

Although square aspects are very challenging, they do present ample opportunities to improve on your weaknesses. The constant challenges and lessons about self-worth and love mean that with age, you can achieve the long-term happiness you strive for.

Take for example Dustin Hoffman with Venus square Saturn at a mere 0°01′ orb. When he left school and told his family about his dream to become an actor, his Aunt said “You can’t be an actor. You are not good-looking enough” [BBC Radio – Dustin Hoffman]. He did the hard yards and reached the top of his field which involves Venus self-image and beauty, how you project yourself.

The key to working through this aspect is self-love. If you let the criticisms and rejections take hold in your head, then these messages become reinforced. Erase that recording and replace it with positive messages such as “I am worthy of love” and things along that line.

Once you start to project a more positive self-image, then you will gain the confidence to make and maintain relationships. No longer will you hide your affections and miss out on opportunities for romance. No longer will you miss out on the feeling of being loved and valued.

Dustin Hoffman did experience a divorce, but his second marriage has lasted the periods of separation due to his career. He has a bag load of kids from both marriages and even grandkids now.

Venus Square Saturn Transit

Venus square Saturn transit can add stress to your love life because of delays, shyness, distance, or other relationship problems. Most of these hindrances will stem from your own fears or criticisms, but you may face the same from others.

To maintain harmony in relationships, it would be better to spend some time alone, but don’t ignore the affections and love of others either. Putting in the extra effort will reduce the risk of relationship dramas.

It is common under this influence to feel lonely and depressed, totally normal for human life. It will pass quickly and then you can get back to a harmonious and peaceful existence. Money can also be tight with this transit so avoid a tendency toward wasting money and other resources.

Although motivation may be lacking and you would prefer to be lazy, this transit may require hard work to maintain your present relationship, career, or other valued parts of life. This is no time to be ignoring your responsibilities, especially for loved ones. Although you will be feeling low and in need of love, someone close to you may lean on you for support and would be greatly disappointed if you let them down.

Venus Square Saturn Celebrities

Dustin Hoffman 0°01′, Franklin D, Roosevelt 0°01′, Queen Anne of Great Britain 0°10′, Oprah Winfrey 0°11′, James VI and I 0°30′, Robson Green 0°40′, Wes Craven 0°46′, Muhammad Ali 0°59′, Jim Jones 1°32′, Nigel Farage 1°34′, Michelle Pfeiffer 1°35′, Anthony Hopkins 1°50′, Charlotte Church 1°52′, Venus Williams 1°58′, Johnny Depp 3°00′.

Venus Square Saturn Dates

25 April 2021
17 September 2021
18 June 2022
7 November 2022
14 April 2023
1 January 2024
28 October 2024
1 August 2025

50 thoughts on “Venus Square Saturn Natal and Transit

  1. Icurrently have this venus square saturn for a few days right now and also in the bigger picture is Saturn trine Venus. Is this what they call a double transit ?

  2. I have a Grand Cross composed of Venus square Saturn, Venus opposed Pluto, Venus square Mars – never had a successful love relationship….started feeling isolated in kindergarten, dysfunctional parents. Plus I have a 2nd Grand Cross with Moon opposed Neptune, both squaring my ASC/DSC and Jupiter/Uranus conjunct in 12th house…..I truly don’t know how I’ve survived…..extremely lonely.

    • I understand how you feel.

      I’m somewhat in the same boat – I have a miserable stellium of Mars, Saturn, Pluto Conjunct, all three malefics retrograde and in the 7th house/Libra of relationships. And Venus squares all three! 🙁

      Venus square Pluto (almost exact), Venus square Saturn (3 degrees), Venus square Mars (7 degrees).

      Venus also opposes my North node, and NN is square the entire stellium, with saturn again squaring North North as an exact aspect.

      To me this all feels like having three separate T-square configurations, all hitting my Venus and my nodes. Pure, unadulterated hell.

      A couple of years ago Jamie told me that I had best learn about the squares to the nodes myself, but that I had a “very karmic” birth chart, and my soul’s evolution has been very heavy in this life due to all the retrogrades. Maybe your two grand crosses are also similar in that effect, what do you think? Sounds like it to me since your experience of lonliness mirrors mine.

      It’s brutal for sure, and the loneliness is soul destroying. The only thing that I have found which helps is trying to research on Soul contracts and Soul plans, and having past life regressions along with intense inner and spiritual work. I now try and look at my mostly miserable life as a way of being forced to turn inwards and learn to love myself. Sometimes we need other people to be removed from our lives in order to be forced to learn how to love ourselves deeply. (I hate this, but in hindsight it seems to make sense.)

      Self-love has been a hard won battle for me but as one slowly learns to love oneself, one finds that there are moments where the loneliness just vanishes. And strangely, new people seem to come into our lives, and where once there was a sense of having no one, people slowly start to appreciate us for who we are. Didn’t happen for me without inner work though, which has been hard to do.

      Please watch Teal Swans video on YouTube entitled The Lonliness Epdiemic, it’s about 1 hour 20 minutes long but it’s worth watching a few times over. It has helped me understand my deep lonliness and also how to work on not feeling so lonely. She speaks with the knowledge of one who understand intense lonliness herself and has tried to find ways to transform it. I wish you luck, hang in there!

      • Thank you for recommending Teal Swans video on YouTube. I also have Venus square Saturn, 0°32, and Venus square Moon and Saturn, 4 degrees orb. Never married, learned about self love.

  3. I have this. I was lonely as a child. Very shy.
    What helped me. The arts .
    To be expressive.
    I have a mixture of aspects. Pluto trine moon Is expressive.

    Very conflicting aspects. Sun trine Jupiter uranus and saturn.
    My moon also sextiles Venus..
    Sun sextile rising

    This aspect you literally re write your script.
    Venus Saturn. You may appear distant . uninvolved.
    Reality. Your own company feels the best.

    I have noticed harsh saturn. They are best friends with themselves. Huggers. No.
    Laughter yes.

    Guess whole chart

  4. I have Venus Square Saturn/south node 8 minutes orb. Venus is conjunct Neptune. I guess I am fortunate that venus is also a part of a grand trine, Jupiter/Moon conjunct, in 12th house and mars.

    My life was very hard, little love or happiness. I was lonely early in my life. After I read a book on lonliness when I was about 25, I was never really lonely again. I read over and over again her discription of loneliness in her own life. She was so accepting of lonliness and took all the shame of it away. It took the lonliness away. I haven’t been able to find the book again, it was something like “Living and Growing in lonliness” .

    I had the impression that lonliness should be shameful, or wrong in some way, but it is merely unpleasant, and totally normal.

    My spiritual life was quite wonderful, and if the lonliness started to come back, I read scripture and it immediately disappeared.

    I am spiritually lonely, but nothing that could be improved without a deep spiritual connection. I think this will improve with time.

    I reject what astrologers say about my not being loving. I was loving. One partner told me “we were closer and closer and closer, and I just needed to get away. It was too close, and I wanted to go back to when we were just casual.” That was a failed relationship, but it wasn’t me beling unloving.

    I felt like the world has never brought me a relationship that was really suitable for me, including the one I have been in for six years. My partner is a penniless street person who until recently wasn’t happy unless he was drunk, high, or asleep. I don’t drink. He is also mildly mentally retarded, although socially more skilled than I am. I stay in the relationship because it is extraordinarly comfortable. I believe this is because he is my astrological twin. He was born 12 hours after I was and has the same moon sign.

    He has a distressed venus, but is unaware of it. He considers constant prostitutes he had early in his life a sign of his physical attractiveness and found these quite satisfying relationships. However, he has occationally commented that I stay with him because I care about him, where the other women cared about him only while the money lasted.

    My life has been really extraordinarly hard. My partners life has likewise been extremely hard. I know two other astrological twins. One was dying of alcoholism at age 36, but didn’t die for another 8 years, although she did quit drinking.
    Another is in prison for her religious beliefs in Iran. These people also had very hard lives.

    This world says that being happy is the measure of a man’s worth, or having a longterm relationship, or children, or even great health but I don’t think that is true. I believe the greater success is measured by developing into a kind, truthful, trustworthy, empathetic and extremely generous person.

    I have been told my entire life that longterm relationships, health, success in career, and happiness are the most important things. I am a failure in every way the secular world says is important, and yet I feel like I am one of the most fortunate people who has ever lived. I doubt anyone who have not experienced significant hardship can know the sweetest things that life can bring.

    I am experiencing my second saturn return, but I’ve felt like one of the most fortunate people who ever lived for about 15 years.

  5. I’ve been a student of astrology since the 1980s, considering myself and amateur astrologer by this point in time. I’ve always held the belief that squares in a chart are obstacles in one’s life to overcome. The benefit in overcoming is peace, maturity and wisdom, relating to the sign and position of the square in the chart It sounds like this is what you have achieved by this point, congratulations!

  6. My heart goes out to you! I’m a natal Venus square Saturn, and I too have never had a successful relationship. I also have a Scorpio moon. I feel your pain. I wonder if there’s a way to overcome this? I’ve worked on myself my entire life and haven’t found an answer

    • Hi Elyse. I have Venus opposite Saturn which is very similar. I think the keys are self-love, learning not to criticize yourself and others, and forgiving yourself and others so you can stop feeling guilt or shame. It is basically unconditional love.

  7. Hi Elyse. I guess the answer is found in the birth chart. But I a few thoughts.

    Regarding forgiveness, Stephen Forrest said in one of his recent books that he doesn’t believe it’s possible for someone to try to forgive. He felt forgiveness is something that just happens when the hurt is no long there. (I am paraphrasing). I thought he was dead wrong. I’ve found early in life praying for the people who injured me was a lifesaver. It quicly healed me of any resentment.

    In Man’s search for meaning, Victor Frankel discusses how important meaning is in suffering. In one example a woman had taken care of a handicaped child and when asked to look back over her life from the perspective of an 80 year old felt her life had great meaning in improving the life of her child. It was the meaning, not the happiness, that was ultimately important in her life review.

    From an astrology point of view the need for meaning for a Venus square Saturn person seems to be especially good archtype for this apsect. I figure why wait till I am 80, why not put emphasis on the meaning, and not on the happiness. I am great at feeling I live a meaningful life, not so good at enjoying the journey. I would definately not choose an enjoyable journey over a meaningful life. Absolutely no contest.

    The truth is meaning very often comes from that which is difficult. That is Saturn. Saturn is hard but it gives that which is meaningful. If I were giving someone with Venus square Saturn advice it would be to ignore everything the astrologers say about Venus square Saturn, and take value from that which is meaningful. For some the difficult meaning might come through a life partner, but meaning can come elsewhere.

    It’s good to look at the reasons someone might be unhappy in order to change them, but the judgements (self and other improsed) are so destructive. I finally decided happiness is not my primary goal. Meaning is my primary goal.

    Jodi Forrest gave me a reading when I was in college. She gave 3 pieces of advice for having a good relationship with Venus square Saturn.
    1. Be self sufficient financially. . You need to be able to support yourself financially.
    2. Be psychologically self – sufficient You can’t rely on a relationship to sheld you from things that go bump in the night.
    3. “By the time someone wiht Venus square Saturn gets there, they usually have a lot of bruises, It is going to take risking anyway. You can’t hold back because relationships don’t really work out anyway. You have to give yourself completely because if you don’t the other person is going to sense it and that is spelling the end of the relationship.”

    I got to 1 and 2 pretty early. I gave love every opportunity, including going all in over and over, not holding back. But I finally came to the conclusion that it just wasn’t going to be.

    I then had another astrologer, a great astrologer actually, who trained ,who trained with Stephen Forrest, create dissatifaction in me by telling me that it wasn’t possible that the world was not giving me opportunity for relationship. She said this because my South node is conjunct Saturn, and Venus is on the square of the nodal axis.

    But every time I prayed for a relationship I felt seperated from God. I had to stop that prayer. Decade after decade when I prayed for a relationship I had to stop because I felt a terrible seperation from God. The last time, when I was in my late 40’s I knew it wasn’t God’s will to give me a relationship and those who that told me otherwise were not helping me.

    Also kind of interesting because EVERY TIME, I prayed for someone around me to have a relationship they met their spouse in less than a year, often within a few months. This was true of those I saw needed a relationship, but were dead set against settling down. I have Chiron/Moon/Jupter all conjunct. I couldn’t have a relationship but I felt my prayers helped others find partners that would be good for them.

    One man almost 60 had been single for 15 years. He was very lonely. I said I will prayer for you. He didn’t think much of it, but I knew my prayers would clear any barriers. He met his spouse in 2 months and was married in my home. I never told him of my certainty that he would meet someone soon.

    I paid for someone to go to school overseas, and he met his spouse there.

    I finally came to realize why I couldn’t have a relationship, I don’t feel comfortable sharing it here, but it was certainly because I am not a loving person, or not forgiving. That’s just nonsense. Evolutionary Astrology can be so blaming. My reasons for not being able to have a relationship were really quite beautiful, and I would not have it any other way.

    These are the things I would tell a young person with Venus square Saturn.
    1. Make meaning rather than happiness the goal
    2. Appreciate aspects to venus where meaning or enjoyment might be found.
    3. Reaize that Venus and Saturn typically become easier with time.
    4. Don’t let others tell you what you should find meaningful
    5. You feel the way you feel; don’t pile on judgement.
    6. Be loving in whatever way you can. Don’t let astrologers values (a reflection of societies values for the most part), be something you accept without scrutiny. You will have losses, but if you live life well good will come from them. Choose to believe this, and it will help. As the Bible says, “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God”. If something is hard doesn’t mean it is bad.
    7. If you want a relationship scrutinize yourself for things that make successful relatioinships harder; alcohol, drugs, ADD, ADHD, clinical depression, tendency to criticize a partner, or hold back positive comments. You have to willing to change the things that need to be changed to have a successful relationship. (Or stated in a very Saturn way, you have to do the work to have a good relationship)
    8. Venus squre Saturn can often mean a “lucky” Saturn. If Saturn is running smoothly, appreciate that this part of the aspect. Venus square Saturn can bear, endure, and overcome better than most. If you want to do something when you are young, keep putting in the work year after year, and you may be amazed at what you can accomplish.
    9. Remember your north node. (Well shouldn’t everyone).

  8. Hey! I have Venus Saturn opposition. I get in trouble because others think I am too nice. I just get what the wounded people feel and try to help!

  9. Hello Caroline, I understand where you are coming from. I also have venus square saturn and Neptune . OMG, my love life has been a nightmare. Saturn does make you feel worthless and Neptune which is the worst planet ever, gives you false hopes, causing huge disillusionment . With Neptune, there is always more tunnel. Hange in there.

    • Its so comforting reading your stories.Of course i would prefer for all of us for things to be different.Well,me too,having venus squre saturn and neptune,saturn square sun and mars,all my personal planets in the 12th house and various other things i can relate with you all.I had a really hard life,practically raised by myself and every hardship you know i ve passed it.Always found comfort in studying.I got various various degrees,always after scholarship,and in a year i am getting my medical degree.My life has been so hard that i couldnt have a relationship.Relationships need work,time,energy and a bit of joy that honestly was hard to find even for myself.In my opinion,having a difficult natal chart is not an easy ride.No way.But please dont lose hope.Be patient,be loving with yourselves,your life and everybody else.Best wishes to all!

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