The announcement of Prince William’s Engagement to Kate Middleton has sparked excitement among royal lovers. So here’s comes a brief chart interpretation for Kate Middleton, birth date January 9 1982, birth time unknown.
The Sun represents the identity and the life force, and Kate’s Sun is on a fortunate fixed star called Dheneb in the tail of Aquila the Eagle. Dheneb gives a successful and fortunate life with a commanding personality [1]. Sun trine Chiron very strong will give this commanding personality a healing touch, she will have a positive and healing effect on other people.
Sun square Saturn is more challenging causing some difficulties in early life. These tests and setbacks, criticism from authority figures like the father or teachers, can lead to lower self esteem, but here the strong influence of bold and confident Dheneb will help overcome the restrictive influence of Saturn. She will develop great determination, maturity and perseverance and will become a master self discipline, achievement and responsibility.
Mercury conjunct Venus makes for artistic appreciation, and a liking for nice things in general. A smooth talker, lovely words, pleasant conversations. With Mercury/Venus square Jupiter, the liking for the good life is stronger. It does add optimism and a love of socializing, however, that Saturn discipline would be needed to keep in check any tendency for extravagance in partying and spending.
Mars on the fixed star Porrima adds to the pleasant nature from Mercury conjunct Venus. Porrima gives “a courteous, refined and lovable character with prophetic instincts.” However, with Mars, Robson also says “trouble with opposite sex, marriage partner and public” [1]. This is important be these are difficulties associated with Sun square Saturn. Now there are two indicators in the chart for problems in the area of relationships with men, authority, and the public in general. This is likely to take the form of delays, periods of separation, and also criticism.
Update: Catherine, Princess of Wales birth time 7:00 pm
- Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology, Vivian E. Robson, 1923, p.153, 158.
TIME!! How does one go about getting such a thing for a future Royal, I wonder?
Marina, do you see anything there about HATS? I’m thrilled at my imaginative thought that hats might make a true fashion comeback.
Aries, head, nothing there but plenty of reflexive action in Libra. Aquarian Venus conj MC (like me – I’m 5o) so watch for innovation maybe?
All dependent on time! Arrrrgh! LOL
Yes we do need the time because I find her chart incredibly boring as it is. I haven’t looked at their synastry yet, but the few sites that have done them seem to be quite down on their relationship. But this was before they announced their engagement and were done around the time they split, so that probably had a bearing on how they were viewed. Magi astrology says they have the heartbreak aspect. His Saturn quincunx her Chiron. I checked that one out with an ex of mine and sure enough it was there!
Oh she has Ceres at the midpoint of Mars and Lilith. So Mars and Lilith are in sextile. Well thats sexy I guess, but it’ll make her quite jealous and possessive I reckon with Ceres there. Hmmmm.
Hats! Yes, maybe hats with her are the equivalent of Diana’s ruffley collar.
Diana wore hats too.
Now as a huber chart her chart is NOT boring and with this 11.33pm time her chart is rather racey! Woo. Mars rising and a wide Hades moon is what I was looking for. At first I thought she might have a Moon square Eris, so this is similar. My mother has a moon square Pluto. Powerful stuff. http://darkstarastrology.com/sun-square-pluto-natal
Now I would count this 11.33pm time as a C rating. But I think its worth looking at the chart because it yields some interesting fixed stars and I just love the look of the chart. look at all that RED. The only trine she has of note is the sexy mars trine venus/mercury, but it’s a good one if Mars is rising. if this time is right we get Diadem (a type of crown!) as her rising star “It is said to give a suave and well-bred manner, with great personal charm” The star is in the constellation Coma Berenice,
“Berenice, the wife of Ptolemy, offered up her hair to Venus on condition that her husband returned safe from the wars. The hair was placed in the temple but was stolen, and to appease the king’s wrath it was said that Venus had taken it into heaven to form a constellation. [Robson*, p.39.]
Lets hope this time IS right for William as Diadem the star is supposed to indicate great sacrifice on behalf of ones husband, but it is also very much about standing by your man. I think Kate will be EXTREMELY loyal to william, always putting him first despite the very great indicators of her female independent and feistiness. That great Mars energy will all go into defending him staunchly. In fact even supporting him against his stuffy family who may want him to stick to tradition too much. HE is going to have to be the diplomat though, with no green in her chart she is an all or nothing type gal. You look at his chart and he is is mainly green and blue. They do complete each other.
I also like her Northnode/Moon conjunction in the 10th house. Pollux is actually the writers star. It is also Castors evil twin! It gives a fascination for writing about the dark side and horror. With this time she does have a very dark goddessy chart . I’m warming to her! Time makes all the difference. I hope its right! Maybe I shouldn’t speculate, but I can’t resist and it’s just SO juicy.
Saturn septile Lilith gives psychic protection if balanced – Jupiter quintile Sun balances with outgoing creative drive – potentially an inner alchemist, fiery emotions will be the test – nice chart, much more interesting
Hi Marina – haven’t heard much about Kate’s feelings about wearing her deceased mother in law’s ring but can’t help feeling that her Ceres in Scorpio looks strangely reflective of the this……..are there hidden tensions around this, esp. with it being mid Mars Lilith – whats behind the gloss and does she have a wicked temper, power hungry in partnership – stubborn/determined with it (Saturn Pluto)? Does Sun in Cap. say the hat fits, and now she must wear it (SNode)? Wonder who wears the pants here….HRH grandma Moon? (square Mars, trine Ceres, quincunx Lilith!)
…..could we use events, such as their meeting, break-up, reunion, as indicators for her birth time….?
First thing I thought of.
Damn shortsighted of the Prince.
There’s a HongKong fengshui expert who predicted an unhappy marriage for the two. Could Magi be right this time? If that happens then the Magi Society will have a field day.
I think she has a Cancer Asc, bearing this and with Ceres and Jupiter in Scorpio(4th house?) she does know how to nurture her man!
There must be something in her that strongly reminds William of his mother…could be the Cancerian qualities. I can’t help but feel the creeps when I saw the sapphire ring on Kate’s finger on TV. It dampens the mood for me. I do believe that pieces of jewelry captures traumatic energies.
@Rob, sounds like you’ve just described Camilla. This time around however, the ‘Prince’ is marrying his ‘Camilla’.
One thing I can say about Kate though, she knows how to wait. What’s their Saturn aspects in synastry? She knew even then that time was on her side.
That’s knowing how to wait would be a skill from natal Sun square Saturn, very patient! The perserverance pays off in the end.
Jamie, “Hello”. How do you go about uploading your pic instead of the image that somehow was assigned to me when I joined? I have now completed the Rectification for Kate and the Union and Ascension Aspects for William, but I would like my Avatar to be a little something different than a son / daughter of Arachne. Blessings, Jodie
Hi Jodie, go to the Gravatar website to upload your pic, then it comes up for all your comments all over the interent linked to your email address. Look forward to seeing the rectified time!
Dear Jamie
Regarding the rectification of Kate’s chart, ever the teacher and always a student, one thing that I believe everyone can (and will) agree on is that out of a 24-hour / 12-sign period of time on the day that Kate was born, it is impossible for the time of birth to be between 1:40 pm and 3:54 pm.
Can you tell me why?
Jodie
Hmmm. I thought the opposite. That William perhaps chose Kate because she not much like Diana at all. They both are/were tall, but I can’t see much else that seems similar about the two women.
I agree about the ring. It is such a loaded object that it seems William really took a chance in giving it to Kate,as far as how Kate would feel.
I got an ascendant of Libra for Kate.
I read through my post once more after it got uploaded to your site Marina. Right after reading ‘…field day.’, something startled me and my hand inadvertently sent my favorite coffee mug flying and getting smashed on the floor. Sad.
It does seem interesting that both William & Kate were born on an eclipse. Are eclipse natives naturally attracted to each other??
I haven’t looked up Saros cycle (anyone know which series it is part of?), but it does make me wonder if their marriage is part of a bigger picture and may have wider historical significance.
Both strong peronalities I would think. A solar eclipse for the king, and a lunar eclipse for the queen.
Thanks for pointing this out for us Sarah, eclipses are very important in both their transits now.
William – the June 2010 solar eclipse opposite his natal solar eclipse.
Kate – the July 2010 lunar eclipse conjunct her natal lunar eclipse.
I think this would be a good case for thinking Kate’s Moon is closer to that 19 Cancer eclipse degree, giving her an evening birth time.
just checked out Bernadette Brady – and yes, William was born on a significant Saros series! completing when he is 54 – “To have Prince William involved in this series implies quite strongly that he
is going to change the face of the monarchy or walk away from it” bernadettebrady.com
~I wonder what Kate’s role will be in the future of the monarchy?
Good find Sarah. This wil be a pet project for my whole career I think.
Blessing to the couple, first.
and, Right. She knows how to nurture her man. But her nurturing ability can be manipulative to gain her pursuit of materials. Her mind-Mercury is always on materials-Venus as Capricorn, who is the most ambitious. As Neptune and Lilith on his ascendant, Prince William is kind of a vulnarable soul searching guy. But she seems too far in that way. I cannot help but thinking that cancer moon is for her superficial desire rather than really cares for his soul.
Astrologers in England might be hard to say this..but to me. It’s pretty obvious. Alas.
England is interesting country. All kinds of occult are prevalent but keep having fuss wrong timing. Prime minister was appointed during Mercury Retro. Blare released his book during Mercury Retro. Prince William firstly popped the q under the Cardinal tension, which was little off but still popped the q under Venus R. Although I agree with what Marina said about V rx. It ‘s just strange.. Can’t even wait for several more days after years of dating and months of living together? Venus Direct is just right there. I only could think it is destined to…..have fuss….again.
I personally REALLY wish to see a wedding of LOVE that firmly locked each other’s eternal soul while Saturn stays in Libra. So rare nowadays.
“But her nurturing ability can be manipulative to gain her pursuit of materials. Her mind-Mercury is always on materials-Venus as Capricorn, who is the most ambitious.”
I could see that with the square to Jupiter too. I’ll leave the synastry aspects till later when I can give it enough time.
Saturn in Libra is all about strategy and law making.
Maybe England knows something about Mercury Retrograde 😉 I’m British and I really do believe it’s an very occult time. You just have to watch for the days around each station. Jamie and I got married during the last mercury retro shadow period actually while it was stationing.. so oopps At the time I diodnt really bother about the shadow period, but I have experienced it so badly when it stationed direct 3 weeks later that i will never forget it ever again…My daughter picked the date because she liked the number 9 after a put a pin in the calender between 9 and 10, we needed it to be in December when all the kids were together so we had not much choice.
Fate decided. But I think it worked out ok because. First this is a second marriage for both of us and second we are probably going to marry again infront of all my family and friends in the UK. I really want to do this. It won’t negate our wedding chart. Apart from the Mercury retrograde it’s very nice. Maybe we just have to keep reaffirming our vows every now and then!
Eventually, the Monarchy will release Kate’s Birth Time (she is a historical figure after all). Until then, we should be looking at the Horary Chart of the actual Public Announcement. This will give us a look into all of the keys that this relationship will “grow through”. Having a Cancerian Moon gives Kate the “loyalty” through which her Capricorn Sun will express its (own) type of “nurturing” that William is longing for in a mate.
I hope you’re right about the Monarchy releasing Kate’s birth date. I’m guessing it would be difficult to walk up and ask her for her birth time. It is very personal information and I expect it would ultimately be her decision.
Jodie, I have no idea why Kate could not have been born between 1:40 pm and 3:54 pm.
Dear Jamie;
This would put Saturn (that which “blocks) in her 5th House of Children, and this would never work for Her Majesty (or her Astronomer). Two months ago, when the wedding date was announced, I had a LONG conversation with my Cosmo-Biology Teacher, Laura DesJardins (of Matrix Astrology Software), and after noting the bone structure of Kate’s face and the way that she carried herself, I said that she would had to have Libra rising. This would place her Saturn in the 1st House of Appearance. When Saturn is not (natally) placed in its 10th House of Public Image, Saturn in the 1st is one of the more favorable positions; i.e., it gives “structure” and “what the public wants to see” to the person’s appearance and “way of being”.
However, is too much emphasis being placed on the bride (that was chosen by the groom)? We must remember what HRH Prince William lived through during his parents’ unhappy marriage and subsequent breakup. He secretly longs for the exact thing that HRH Prince Charles and Diana did not have — stability in their personal relationship. This, I believe we MUST keep in mind…
Faith Javane and Dusty Bunker in their seminal book, “Numerology And The Divine Triangle” align Kate’s 30/3 with the 4 of Wands (“Partnership” as in Laura Clarson’s “Tarot Unveiled: The Method To It’s Magic”) and William’s 47/11/2 with the 7 or Cups (“Imagination”). If Kate’s 30/3 (learning to have Fun and keeping “it” in its place) finds its way to relate to William’s 47/11/2 (“organization” combined with “Deity” to produce “partnership”), then the basis that their relationship is founded upon will survive. As for mistresses and consorts, that’s another story that I am not comfortable prognosticating upon in this public forum.
So Kate’s 1st Saturn Return suggests the immediacy in her role of “producing an Heir” (Mercury conjunct Venus in the 4th brings up the possibility of Twins), and this is closely followed by William’s own 1st Saturn Return (the advent of “Responsibility”). His Uranus at the Mercury / Venus midpoint, suggests the possibility of a “surrogate” or “in vitro”.
The Bishop of London’s opening quote (St. Catherine of Sienna vis-a-vis Diana), “Be who God meant you to be, and you will set the world on fire”, set the stage for the Fairy-tale Wedding that every young bride dreams of.
Many, many blessings to the happy couple (with an Heir and a Spare to come along in due time)…
Namaste,
Babalosa
New Orleans
Hey thats really interesting about Saturn in the 5th. Now if they really do take note of Astrologers like they did back in the day (Tudor times) then this time of 11.33pm does look good doesn’t it? Also the way Kate carries herself and going with the traditional wedding dress. Yes it all makes sense. Waity Katie, stamina, endurance, classic. All very 1st house Saturn. Even her slim body.
My ex had saturn in the 5th. We had just one child together whom he dotes on. So it doesn’t mean no children at all. Maybe just one.
I have Saturn first but Im hardly classic in appearance – stamina and endurance yes – hard to reduce appearance to one factor – thinking about Moon conjunct NN and in Cancer re E2’s comment from Nov – this says to me she is going to be very sensitive to her future role, passionate even (10th), but, likely to keep her feelings behind a shell (I also have Moon in Cancer) and sense of tradition needing to be fulfilled – but, Sun signs aside, opposite Sun conjunct SN, is well aware of where she is coming from and confident in herself within this role – there is tension between these two aspects and her Saturn square to them helps her find the poise and strength of purpose she needs to fulfill its potential, but, it has to be worked at – how the rest of the chart feeds into this might be the key and with the empty quarter of the square, opp Saturn, in Aries, Mars rising may give her the public persona/energy she needs to fill out that 7th house role in the public eye, just so long as she can relax, and not have the energy to make it work dampened by diplomacy in the face of tradition – there is a lot of ‘appearance’ about that Moon placement in this respect
personally I think she has a soft heart as well as a lot of hidden depth, and much of this is yet to be seen (maybe never will be unless the media leaks it out – Pluto 1st sextile Neptune) , but, her Mercury, conjunct Venus, trine Mars will fulfill the heart, mother side of the equation and perhaps make it more visible, bring her into the NN Moon role more – Saturn (by experience) can also produce inner tension and it takes some maturity, coming into ones power, to balance this and be able to be oneself more fully – for me, with Kate, this is going to be tested by her behind the scenes experiences – what goes on behind the scenes we may only ever know when the empty leg is filled, Saturn tested by transit and Pluto sextile Neptune is opened up in energetic transiting aspect – with a potential action point in a yod for example, which is here completed by Will’s Chiron+Venus on Algol and, if im reading the midpoint chart you put up Marina correctly, this puts Ceres on this degree – she may have something to protect her kids from; its Chiron in there that makes me wonder, something wounding….don’t care to speculate on this
And a family with every member with Saturn in the 11th house, probably won’t be very many children either– (my husband’s Saturn is in the 11th- Mine is in the 11th house in opposition with Eros/Ceres/Juno in the 5th— *scratches head* And I wonder why I don’t have MORE children- bahhha.. our composite charts have hardly anything in the 5th house 😛
Even my son has Saturn in the 11th house and just claimed he was not getting married ever, because a wife would be too demanding! He’s only 10 and being like this!
Hi, Barb here, been doing astrology for years, but a bit rusty at present. Like you ‘concerned’ about this royal marriage. Yes it would be nice to know Kate’s birthtime. Concerns: will split up with Kate when jupiter was transiting his AC. What will happen again in 12 years time when this happens again. 2nd. saggi AC = gemini DC. People with this AC often have two big loves in theirlife. (Think diana Prince Charles and then ?) I think Prince William has the real big love to come. Ity concerns me that Kate middleton, to our knowledge, has never, so far de0vted her life to anything, had a serious career etc. I have ominous feelings about it lasting. (Footnote; How about Prince william marrying my daughter, Helen? DOB 21.July 1984, 15.04 BST St Albans England Her moon conjuncts Prince Charles’ moon, the Queen’s sun and is seztile william’s sun/moon!! nice to make contact. Best wishes. Barb
Ha ha, astro matchting up your daughter to the future king. Well at least you’re putting it out there! Interesting about these Jupiter transits to his AC, based just on Gemini on the DC, I would not think so, but then I don’t use the Sun signs. I just love the fact of the December 2010 lunar eclipse bang on his DC, getting married in this eclipse cycle.
Now here’s a writer, who has done their research: http://venusstarrising.com/http:/venusstarrising.com/uncategorized/the-royal-wedding. Enjoy!
Here is an update from Donna Cunningham on the birth time for Kate Middleton:
“Astrologer, Marc Penfield, who was one of Lois Rodden’s most dedicated and meticulous data collectors, reported that he heard from someone in England who’d seen the birth record. It said January 9th, 1982 at 11:33 PM, Reading, England. (The data should still be considered tentative until confirmed.)”
Did you see that Mars rising ? She not only is capable of a tremendous temper but surgery and violence could be more a part of her life than other Mars placements. It’s obvious but it really stood out, first thing I noticed. Sun is squared by the very prominent Mars…and good grief, Sun Square Pluto….I have Sun Square Pluto so I know what it’s like. {Sheesh it makes me wonder what her father was really like too !}. Mars Square the MC is not at all good for anyone. I think Kate is not your average little cupcake. I almost want to say “poor William”.
Also. Kate’s Moon in in harsh aspect to Uranus so she could be somewhat bi-sexual. Or someday might act out on that if not already. Of course the birth data is not totally confirmed buy wow I had to comment.
I forgot to mention the hard aspect between the Sun and Uranus in Kate’s chart which is also violence in the making. And does not bode well for relations with men {such bad aspects she has in abundance since her Sun is very afflicted} Kate has an unfortunate chart as far as emotions, depression, violence and anger go. The depression is there with the bad aspects to the Moon from Saturn and Pluto. As well as danger/tragedy/misfortune/unhappiness apparent to any children she might have with William. Money is there too, but it can’t shield her.
Lori, I have to wonder if you are reading Kate’s chart here or your own. I noted the Sun / Pluto, but interpret it in a different light (i.e., Rheinhold Ebertin’s “The Power”). Sometimes having the presence of “harsh aspects” works to enable an individual to move beyond how it manifested while they were growing up, and leads the person into a career where they function to alleviate those kinds of problems that other people suffer from. The Natal Chart is (simply) the blueprint; how the individual puts it to work is where the real meat of astrology is. Mars / Midheaven signifies “the job that nobody really wants to do”, so in essence, Kate isn’t just marrying a Crown Prince. She’s getting “drafted” into a lifelong role that most people simply cannot stand up to. Thankfully, she is a Capricorn, and thus committed to durability (of relationship, family, and public image). In this, she is exactly what William needs to balance out his own chart and accompany him through the role that he has going on in his horoscope. I think Kate is going to surprise those nay-sayers who aren’t giving her credit for some “fortability” — and this, William desperately needs. Namaste.
No I’m not “reading my own” chart. I’m wide awake and reading exactly what I see Kate’s aspects are if the birth time is correct. If she has the same Pluto square as I do that doesn’t have much to do with me if I’m talking about her chart. She literally has the aspect.
The natal chart will also tell what is highly likely to happen to you. It is not just a picture of your youth.
Lori, I have to question this interpretation. When aspects such as these exist in a Natal Chart, they represent what is “already” there; i.e., this is where William and Kate are coming from — not necessarily where they are going to. Uranus represents “shocks”, and certainly Princess Diana’s untimely death came as a shock (to everyone). William has already demonstrated his willingness and intention to move beyond this, and find a positive application for the events of his childhood. Today, I am much better able to deal with my Pluto / Ascendant “temper”, than I was 30 years ago. The Natal Chart represents the blueprint (“application”) of the lessons in a person’s life, not the outcome. That would invalidate “Free Will”. This makes William and Kate more “sensitive” to these issues, and thus, dedicated to working overtime to see to it that their children can have it a little easier than they did. This is what Parenting is all about, no? A dedicated Parent will put themselves between their child and danger or things that would bring them discomfort. How many “horror stories” in Charts have people overcome, and gone on to transform their experience into something positive. This takes commitment and durability — both signatures for Capricorn and the 10th House influence. Saturn (the great Lesson Teacher) is in Kate’s 1st House of Expression, but Saturn is also her Capricorn “ruler”. The North Node (destiny point) is in the 10th House opposing her Sun in the 4th, and square to the Saturn / Pluto conjunction in the 1st. When you see a T-Square like this, look to the 7th House (the House of Relationship and Marriage) for where it is wanting to go (i.e., fill in the missing space of what would be a Cardinal Grand Square). This isn’t a case that can be delineated by 1st Grade Astrology, as multitudes of people will be affected and impacted by this individual. Yes, she is hard-headed — but she’s going to need some of this tenacity to stand up to being in this “job” for the rest of her life. It’s never easy for a person when they realize that “History is listening, watching, judging, and talking about what they have done / are doing / and will do”. “Time will tell” — as the Old Saying goes; and I think it’s going to speak well of her. I may be wrong, but understanding (in my own Chart) how difficult aspects can work to mold a Teacher out of the harshness of growing up. That’s the difference between the Adult and the Child within. Namaste.
Ah ha! Have you got a Pluto square AC too? I smile in recognition :). I like your take on squares and it sounds very much like how the Hubers view them also.
As humans we are evolving the way squares are played out in our charts. The solar system is growing and our minds expanding to receive new knowledge. We no longer view charts as the medieval astrologers do with their detriment and afflicted planets so why do we still view squares with such horror? No pain, no gain is my motto and that’s probably my AC speaking too.
I can tell you about horror Marina. It’s perfectly reasonable to see the worst when the worst does happen. One of my older brothers had Mars square to his Ascendant. He first nearly died in a motorcycle accident,{not his fault}. Months of recovery. About 6 months after that accident he had his last and fatal accident in a car {unknown reason but his car left the road ,rolled and broke up}. I’d have to look at his chart again for any further aggravating factors but Mars square Ascendant is by itself enough I’m sure.
With hard aspects ,if you only read the negative in them and negative only and proclaim to the world its only negative that will happen I could see that would be a problem. But to say its old-fashioned and maybe ?, mislead to acknowledge the worst possibilities I can’t agree with that.
Princess Diana for example, I saw her chart and figured her death would likely be violent because of the 8th house. I was right,unfortunately.
I really like your work on this.
BAck to her sun sign – so basic I know -but Capricorn is extremely controlling too. Rgds Kate’s links to Diana astrologically (( read the Venus star rising page) KAte is already showing the saddest aspect of Diana and the desire for control and that is starvation. Compare pictures of Kate a year ago and you’ll see a tall athletic bodied woman. Look at her yesterday and you see a stick insect body.
I have a theory that starvation before the wedding is now a cultural norm as the woman who has enjoyed freedoms prepares to forfeit them. It is no longer acceptable to get married, breed and look maternal. Not if you’re in the public eye. So knowing she is fully in the glare of the press, Capricorn Kate can control her body and draw envy from other women. Its almost a female war cry! (like Victoria Beckham too. Aries? War on her body?) And one way of female waging war is control. Stonewalling.
Anyway, Kate has the lot of fortune conjunct Mars in Libra… strategic control on her own body as well as her marriage?? Mars PLuto and Saturn in Libra… The logically and nicely presented but disguised war strategist?
England is according to some charts a Capricorn country. So Kate has an embodiment of a country under duress and recession. She is carrying the national anima which is war spirit, make do and suffer. No one can be crucified or wear sack cloth and ashes like a Capricorn.
She is also now an icon for female dressing – it has been the norm for English woman hood to display as much flesh as possible when “dressing up” over the last 20 years or so – they take their leads from celebrities.
English women have taken a dip into “ladette” culture, boozing to excess, bad public behaviour etc
Be a bystander at Royal Ascot and watch the sad sight of young women drink themselves into comas etc etc!
So does Kate embody a new style of puritan role model?? her dutiful simplicity implies it.
The Cardinal cross in her chart is so perfectly timely as England goes through a Cardinal crisis – and so does the rest of the world, which tuned in by the millions to the wedding.
The Tarot card of Judgement with its cardinal cross flag of St George and angel with the trumpet (so well represented in the Abbey at the service) comes to mind.
I was struck by the photo released yesterday of her, William and the pages/bridesmaids. She is central and fixed and direct. She has what she set out to get – just like Diana who had decided years before that she would marry CHarles, KAte had a picture of William on her wall at school. Perhaps this kind of destiny is just known, it is so powerful.
The history and feel of Westminster Abbey is incredible. Elizabeth 1 is buried there and the list of Royals and other luminaries is amazing. History is palpable in this place and for whatever reason the world takes its time from the same point – Greenwich is 0 degrees – a sort of Aries point in time??
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_Abbey#Burials_and_memorials
There are threads of history and fate entwined in this place and brought to all manner of conclusions. Kate may be just a vehicle for historical energies to consolidate.
She could be a reincarnation of a previous King/Queen … and as Neptune creeps into her 12th house she’s going to be invaded emotionally and astrally by the collective.
Neptune will square her natal Uranus – 12/8th house relationship there.
Yed Posterior is conjunct her natal 8th house Uranus – Kabbalist meaning Lightning struck tower (remember the burning tower of Windsor castle when Diana tried to bring the house down!) Pliny says poison.
Acrab/Beta Scorpius/is also on Uranus – With Uranus: Scientific, religious or philosophical work, difficulties with marriage partner’s relatives, favorable for marriage and children, domestic difficulties finally overcome, trouble with parents in early life, favorable for gain and speculation, loss through Mercurial matters, liable to accidents by fire and electricity, sudden death. [Robson*, p.170.]
Time, a very Capricorn consrruct, will tell.
very well put UQW – there are many layers at work in Capricorn, centered and grounded, giving access to and shaping archetypal power in ‘real time’, for which control as focus (in a neutral sense) is needed – one thing I am interested to know, which times do you go with for the England chart, and which chart do you prefer….its something I have wondered about so would appreciate your insights
Well the obvious ones – the Union with ireland 1.1.1801 and 25 dec 1066. Both show up as Capricorn. The Union chart for the United Kingdom shows Uranus in Libra, Sun in Capricorn, Moon in Cancer and Node in Aries so there’s an echo of Cardinal Cross there.
I’m very interested in the use of the different flags – the Union flag was alover the place yesterday at the wedding but did you notice during Italia 90 the Cross of St George started to take over? 1990 Saturn Neptune and Uranus were in Capricorn that year and the culminating transits definitely gave birth to something! We never see the Union flag at the football world cup any more! Compare this to 1966! England has subconscisuly removed itself from the Union – at least on the streets! But not at the wedding!
I love the idea of reincarnating souls through history coming to light down the ages!
I wonder who this was in a previous life – !!! Henry IV??
Have you given this any thought Rob, of all the places in the world where 0 degrees could have been taken, (23 different countries represented when the decision was made) Greenwich, England was chosen. This is about 1 degree east of Stonehenge which makes me wonder, since Wiltshire is the centre for most crop circles, does Stonehenge mark an ancient time centre which has subtly moved one degree some where in the past?
As I said, the Rider Waite Tarot symbol for Judgement show the Cardinal cross of St George. One of the grid maps in Anti gravity and the World Map shows Avebury as the Earth’s Heart Chakra.
An anonymous commenter left “11:33 pm” on March 14 this year as the first comment on our other post, The Royal Wedding.
I just looked at Williams chart and he has a few of the same aspects as Kate, like Sun Square Mars. I guess both might have potential tempers,especially together ! He too, has a hard aspect between Sun and Uranus. Moon Square Mars {representing women and his mother did indeed pass from violence}, this just does not seem great for a marriage because it covers emotions too.
This gives her 08 degrees of Libra rising (note the current position of transiting Pluto at 07 degrees of Capricorn, conjunct her natal I.C. / 4th House Cusp). The Natal Moon in the 10th House promises someone who will take their public role very seriously (this is one of the Signatures of successful Politicians). This implies a great effort on her part to represent her Station and Position to help other people, all the while keeping their public profile clean. In this respect, she is Her Majesty’s “dream” come true. Because it naturally opposes the 4th House of Home & Family, with the Natal Moon in the 10th, she will work tirelessly to see to it that her marriage and children are an asset to the Monarchy and the United Kingdom. Folks, you’re looking at the future Queen of England here. God bless the Queen, and keep her safe, and give her twins!
Hi Lori and Babalosa – ok guys, time to take a pause on the ‘personal’ – yes, reviewing the threads – no blame given, no sides taken, this is an open forum and is the richer for this – there are obvious differences of opinion and interpretation being expressed here, and surely, nothing wrong in that – while we can all get ‘hot’ with it, a respectful acknowledgement and willingness to explore these, share our own insights, without resorting to an escalation of insult or injury is asked for – we can all learn more this way and this makes it possible for good astrology and our knowledge to grow, which is what Darkstar is all about
Thank you. I feel vindicated. Open forum. Exactly. I’m glad to hear that you don’t feel one person can dictate to another here. It’s open, not “owned”.
Pluto square Asc feels good, if integrated, gives a certain torque to the personality – if ‘at home’ with, may be more of a challenge to others than to the native – gravitas, gravitational pool, big potential energy – ego challenge, needs balance, not taking self too seriously
Lori and Babalosa. I have taken off the personal comments and kept the ones with the astrology.
Some Astrologers are really down on squares, even Jamie and I argue about them because he experiences transiting squares as tough going. I think this is to do with the fact he has hardly any squares in his own chart. I think people who don’t have many squares in the chart might feel like this. I on the other had live with a T square to Jupiter rising. Pluto/Uranus square my AC by 7 mins. So I see squares as character-building, dynamic, ambitious and martian, I also see trines as overated see http://darkstarastrology.com/aspects
I do think that transits work differently that natal squares. Transits are harder because they only last a sort time compared with a lifetime of integrating a natal square. I personally think Kate needs those squares and over time they will serve as a buffer against the might of the royals.
Thank you Marina ! I have squares too but still think they are tough. I still think that squares can be a lot of trouble or foretell problems. That was the “side” of the aspects that interested me,partly because I like to try to avoid difficulty {even to a small degree} and in fact that’s why I think it’s good to know about potential trouble in life. Aspects that sound negative like squares its true, have their good side too. Or can have. I never tried to say that I was covering all points about squares,{just for everyone’s info}. I don’t think anyone here goes into pages about all meanings or possibilities. I see a lot of comments where people are just commenting on certain areas that interest them without worrying about being “complete”. For me it’s a fascination with what might go wrong , probably because of what happened to Princess Diana. I notice I’m not the only one who worries about the longevity of William’s upcoming marriage. But because it’s William I do hope it lasts and is happy, {but I kind of doubt it !}.
Marina,
Thanks but on further thought why leave a comment made by baba that I might be “reading my own” chart ? I think it’s a little condescending thus “personal”. I can’t see where I’m “reading my own” chart if Kate’s chart has the same Pluto square as I do. The info on the square that I focused on is acceptable although not complete.
So , where does my chart come in ? It doesn’t. Now if I had that Pluto aspect and she DIDN’T , well yes you might say then I was “reading my own chart”.
If you want to remove ALL the unfair comments please remove the one where I was accused of reading my own chart. Why let that stand when it’s so ridiculous ? Please reply-
This kind of destiny is known and yes it is powerful.
Kate was a mistress of a previous King (today Prince William). Her mother Carole was married to the King. Kate was married to the man who is her father today (Michael).
The venue chosen for the wedding – Westminster Abbey – I am sure was part of ‘the’ intricate plan. I sat down to watch the wedding when I became distracted. The distraction was the Australian Prime Minister, Julia Gillard. I suddenly became aware of who she was in the past and why she she was present in Westminster Abbey as a guest attending the wedding of William and Catherine. … destiny.
Fascinating – what’s your source?
Westminster abbey is an extraordinary place. Likewise Notre Dame and the other great Cathedrals. i wonder where else you’ll spot Julia Gillard in time to come!
I’m the source, and the historical evidence confirms the claim I make. The answer here is in plain sight.
Julia Gillard is connected with Catherine and William, hence why I became aware of who she was on their wedding day.
I have an ability to sometimes ‘know’ who a person was in the past, though it’s not something I do deliberately. (Perhaps my natal sun being in direct opposition to the galactic centre has something to do with this).
Westminster is an extraordinary place …. I knew before any announcement that their wedding service would be held here.
I have a ‘small’ connection with Westminster too, and I’m being modest here. I’d like to revisit it one day.
By the way, Henry IV of France has reincarnated as a woman today.
Fascinating! My eldest daughter has an ancestor on her Father’s side buried in Westminster Abbey too!
UQW
I have no doubt that the position of the GM was established well before 1851, having been used for naval navigation since at least the late C16, but, that it was located where it is in relation to the gravitational vortices of the Wiltshire Plains may be an anomoly ‘designed to distract’ – what is interesting is that George Airy, who was largely responsible for confirmation of the Greenwich Meridian at its current position, was well aware of the existence of gravity waves, having studied them, using liquids, while Astronomer Royal – incidentally, he was also able to postulate the existance of Neptune before its discovery through study of planetary orbits, but, what we do not get from the official history is the connection between his studies of light, lunar orbits and gravitational fields – he was primarily a mathematician, but, his esoteric understanding of the connections must have been profound – he also calculated the mean density of the earth using pendulums at different depths within the earth (mines) and I would say that he was party to the geomantics – it may suit protection of the arcane knowledge all the better to have the international date time located >< one degree East.
What I have observed at Stonehenge, Avebury and Glastonbury are geomantic nodes with differing qualities, frequencies and densities that allow differing dimensional access – these fall on well known dragon paths (cf the flag and St George), each with a different quality and frequency – its the intersections that make the difference – StoneHenge has 14 intersecting at its center – one of these comes from St Pauls (which is built on a temple of Venus) which has a similar frequency to Glastonbury – one thing about dragon lines is that although they connect places in straight lines on a map, in reality they meander – Glastonbury, as I am sure you know, is on the so called Michael and Mary ley line which comprises two meandering dragon paths that intersect along the mean line (ley), amongst other places at Glastonbury – these two paths have very distinct qualities that, when combined, resonate at a wavelength that varies in resonance, depending where it is on the (ley), but not in frequency – at Glastonbury the resonance matches the Earths Core crystal EM frequency and is musically equivalent to F?, that is until fairly recently – the pitch has now raised to G – what makes this interesting is that this is the frequency of incarnation through the heart, the portal for earth-life on the EM spectrum ( the heart is also the first and major organ to form in the embryo)
I lived at the intersection of two major lines, Apollo/Athena, in central Italy for a while – the energetics of the place was very similar to Glastonbury but does not have the same function within the culture – this one tied in more to Stonehenge's astral frequency – the connections are much more off planet, stellar infact, than Glastonbury, which is essentially terrestrial – I have always felt Stonehenge to have a connection with the galactic center through the Sun and rather than anchoring at the earth plane provides a portal beyond time and space – put another way, IMHO it sits on a worm hole…..
curiously, I played there in 1976 with my band Phoenix, but, thats another time, another life….. 😉
Excellent work Rob, as ever! Wormhole sounds about right. Stonehenge also shows the same 56 points as this dense plasma focus. Wal Thornhill (Thunderbolts) reckons this is the key to Stonehenge. As you know, the area we speak about is weird in the extreme! And I’ll be back there soon!
do they have their own royal astrologers?
They certainly have their own homeopaths and astronomer – Sir Martin Rees. I think he’s the reincarnation of Doctor John Dee who was Elizabeth 1’s astrologer/astronomer/philosopher/maths teacher etc his biography is brilliant and puts a very different slant on her and what she learned. He taught her the Monarch’s touch which was a healing touch for her subject when she walked out in public. he of course did extensive work with scrying and angels. Brilliant stuff! If you’re ever in London, check out a wonderous little bookshop called Treadwell’s /www.treadwells-london.com/ who sometimes have organised tour walks on the hstory of witchcraft etc in the Royal histories. They;re very good.
John Dee and I have exactly the same MC/IC, Asc/DC as well as some other stuff……even more curiously, seems I’ve visited/lived in a lot of the places he did…..I’m hoping for the reverse of his fate
I think Elizabeth I was more interested in controlling her subjects than healing them.
I too believe Martin Rees is the reincarnation of John Dee.
The occupational similarities are obvious. Martin’s middle name is John and his surname Rees is a play on the name Dee.
Martin was born on the 23rd June – 173rd day of the year. John Dee was born on the 13th July – 13. 7 – which is somewhat a reflection of 173.
The name JOHN numerically totals 47. The name REES numerically totals 47. John Dees birth date (13. 7. 1527) totalled like this – 13 + 7 + ’27 = 47
MARTIN JOHN REES totalled numerically gives 169. It is speculated that John Dee died in either 1608 or early 1609 (169).
here is the man himself ; you may not agree with Sir Martin’s physics but he has great humour and energy :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qF26MbYgOA
can you provide a birth time for Sir Martin?….I’ll bet he has an Algol connection….
Elizabeth was no innocent when it came to use of resources, especially the combination of material and esoteric, and, perhaps as a result of Dee’s tuition, gained great confidence at a time when the country was going to pot….John Dee used astrology to aid Elizabeth in defeating the Armada and was without a doubt a weather worker in this – he is also the originator of the notion of the British Empire – quite a lasting effect this guy provided us with! Some karma….
Martin Rees born 23 June 1942 is Baron Rees of Ludlow! I don’t agree with his physics but he’s one very charismatic man! He recently won the Templeton Prize.
http://www.templetonprize.org/currentwinner.html
Lord Rees, a churchgoer who neither believes in God nor subscribes to any religious dogma, said he attends chapel on a regular basis as Master of Trinity College, Cambridge, as part of a “traditional ritual”. He also cites the choir – rated fifth in the world by Gramophone magazine – as a reason for his attendance.
“Doing science made me realise that even the simplest things are hard to understand and that makes me suspicious of people who believe they’ve got anything more than an incomplete and metaphorical understanding of any deep aspect of reality,” he told the Guardian. “I participate in occasional religious services which are the customs of the society I grew up in. I’m not allergic to religion.”
On the other hand, John Dee may be reincarnated in Brian Josephson, Nobel Prize winner Physics 1973…
Josephson also directs the Mind–Matter Unification Project in the TCM (Theory of Condensed Matter) Group. He currently sits on the Advisory and Editorial Board of NeuroQuantology: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Neuroscience and Quantum Physics.
/www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/ This is his website – Just scroll down the first page Rob and you’ll be hooked! He has a parapsycholgy page and the link to Dan Drasin’s essay on debunking is excellent! He’s more in the spirit of Dr Dee for sure but Rees has the look!
Will check out Rees for Algol! And Davidson for other things.
BTW – I think Dr Dee is one of the most undersung heroes of English history! A real magus! I used to live in Barnes, half a mile from where he lived in Mortlake, SW London. I think there’s a brewery on the site where his house was. Sacrilege!
Algol seems to be on Venus!!! Uranus, Saturn, Mercury, Lilith, Sun Jupiter all in a tight row mostly Gemini.
Aldebaran and Antares in balance of course – “Aldebaran is said to be a portal to the mysteries of the mind and when balanced with the fixed star Antares, a portal to the mysteries of the heart, this creates a powerful stargate axis that is illuminated bi-annally when the Sun passes by Aldebaran at the first of June and then Antares about six months later.” – His natal Saturn is at 5. I know this is considered too wide an orb for a fixed star conjunction but given the closeness of the stelliium and how it manifests…
If you are talking about Sir Martin re Venus on Algol then my instincts were right – just from catching his energy, focus and disposition towards his subject, but, then, without wishing to put myself in the same league as the good fellow, it does take one to know one – but, do we have a birth time as well as a date/place?
I don’t go with the theory or supposition that a person of former high rank is likely to be found in similarly high position in their subsequent incarnation – it depends more on how they play out their karmic footprint than what they were into and how far they developed it – as the old song has it “it ain’t what you do, its the way that you do it”!
I do agree about John Dee’s role in the UK’s history tho – his chart is extra-ordinary (apologies for the image quality)
I asked it because all astrologers in my country ask the same…because their wedding aspects are very bad…um…
Where are you from Ivana? I’m guessing eastern europe somewhere? The first time I was exposed to the theory of fixed stars in a horoscope was through a lady from Eastern Europe – sorry I can’t remember where! I’d love to know your thoughts on the wedding aspects.
I think people born on eclipses also have their personal lives very much obscured and become pawns of fate.
so, what do you think will Prince William will have a baby? He has venus in 5 in opposit.with uran in 11? And when? Thanks
I am from Serbia (ex Yugoslavia), and all of our astrologers are not opthimistic. Now I will introduce one of the opinions of our astrologers:
Date of marriage good for William, but not for her.
Wedding of Prince William and Kate Midlton being organized with filigree precision and every minute ceremony will be planned in great detail in order to avoid any unpleasant incident. However, astrological analysis and class royal wedding reveals many unpleasant challenges that will be exposed to future spouses, but also offers a useful lesson about choosing a favorable time for marriage.
Of course the most precise chosen wedding date itself will not make a happy marriage between two incompatible people, but choosing the best time will certainly help to many differences and rough edges in the character of the two personalities fine and harmoniously united in marriage mosaic.
Horoscope royal wedding of Prince William and Kate set a future princess April 29th to 2011th at 11 h after the London summer time and the right one can ask whether this date and time fit into the harmonious elekcioni horoscope. There is no doubt that the wedding date and time chosen by the royal astrologer, because in addition to the many bad aspects of that day, he was nevertheless chosen to be good for Prince William, but not for Kate.
The horoscope wedding of Prince William presents the Sun in Taurus, not only is it generally represents the husband’s horoscope weddings, but also because the rule is that the ruler of the horoscope and fields, ie the ascendant, a husband, but in this case, this field starts in Leo , where the sun is the government. The Sun at the time of marriage is strongly placed at the top of the sky in the X field, so that William will be favored in their marriage and his word will be a command. Sun is also a fixed sign of Taurus, so he will want to stay in the marriage and will stubbornly insist on its position. Sun is the star of stagnant malefic Hamal, who brings violence, danger and head injury.
Kate was presented to Venus, a woman in a married relationship, and Saturn, as ruler of the VII field spouses. The wedding horoscope Venus is badly placed under the sign of his fall in Aries, in opposition with Saturn exalted in Libra. Venus is in the X field, the horoscope, so Kate will be too exposed to public criticism, and Saturn in the fourth field, field completion, indicating that the marriage will end prematurely. As Saturn is also the ruler VIII field, the field of suffering, there is a possibility for premature termination of marriage, and this may be a tragedy that need not necessarily be negative from the perspective of the royal family.
From wedding horoscopes and fate of marriage of Prince William and Kate Midlton should learn a few things to avoid when choosing a wedding date and time.
1) Avoid Month at idle, especially when they decline, because of course you want your marriage to be happy, meaningful, interesting and without insulation. Avoid the position of the moon in the zodiac kadentnom field (these are 3,6,8,9 and 12 field horoscopes), because there is no need to borrow an accident.
2) Choose the planets symbolize man and woman to be strong. If you want a harmonious and long marriage in which neither side can not stand, the Sun and Venus, and the rulers and the VII field should be set in harmony, because both equally deserve to be happy.
3) Avoid, as far as possible, the bad and malicious planets such as Mars and Saturn dominate the horoscope wedding.
Empty the moon walk, no single aspect with other planets, further complicating the matter, especially when it is in the decadent IX field in the zodiac sign of Pisces. Since Mesco points on the course of events in marriage, and as a ruler XII fields, field barriers and isolation, suggests that nothing important and good will happen in this marriage. Moon is weak because of the pale, declining in the last quarter, is in thermal Mars, which is a wicked place for him. All this suggests the futility of hopes, and return to the starting position because of obstacles on the path towards a given goal. Moon in Pisces is the isolation, lack of genuine connection and lack of happiness in marriage.
Particularly critical period in the future marriage will 2013th and 2014. when Uranus will progress through the sign of Aries, and Pluto through Capricorn, making such a negative aspect to their natal positions of Mars and Saturn in Libra. Extremely important dates during this period, when to be especially careful, as the moon eclipses the sun, or because they are both future spouses born at the time of eclipses. In fact, William was born at the time of eclipse in 21st June 1982nd, and Kate was born during the ninth lunar eclipse January 1982., which further complicates their fate.
Agree – there is no likely … but in some cases – a number I’ve seen – the karmic footprint is best progressed in a ‘similar’ position.
the wedding began at the 11th hour on an 11 day (2+9) in the year 2011 which is interesting. but the main concern i have is the day they got married was ruled by the 5 of clubs and the Ace of Spades. UGH! 5 of clubs=wandering, restless minds,things full of changes. and the Ace of Spades is all about death, profound change, secretiveness, and life transitions. I really like this couple and I hope they have a live of love. The Prince’s mother got married on a day ruled by the queen of Hearts. She was much beloved by the public.
whole press in the world is occupied with the article from in touch weakly that Kate can not get pregnant,,,so mean…
Kate’s birthday today falls in her 3rd house near IC. is this significant?
I don’t like Kate Middleton. Her decade or more worth of drunk photos,crotch shots {in the back of cars on nights out and drunk and uncoordinated}, and more {like when she brilliantly went without panties in Calgary and a wind blew her dress up…}, seems very much a bimbo and has done nothing with her life. Has a college degree did nothing with it.
Kate is a big vacuum of nothingness. William chose a woman totally opposite of his mother. I looked at his 2013 and 2014 solar chart {I think I chose London as residence not sure if that was a good choice but it regards a few years from now so I tried to guess }, and in 2014 he has Uranus in the 7th house with hard aspects to it…I can only hope it means divorce. As Kate continues the exhibitionism that has run through her life maybe William will wake up and see what she is {or maybe not}. But look at what his 2014 solar chart might look like…see if you think it looks bad for a marriage. I think it does. I have read too that his 7th house cusp , Gemini, indicates more than one marriage.
I need your e mail adress. I want to send some detail about my 21 year old daughter. We are in USA but I am from India and two people gave me totally different but very scary stuff.
Please let me know your e mail adress and give me little info on her.
I’m not sure what you are talking about –
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Scary stuff about your daughter ?
I’m not a professional astrologer.
If you need advice about astrology maybe ask the two people who run this site ?,they could probably advise you.
If the more cunning and vivacious Pippa, Kate’s sister had not stepped in with support and advice, Kate would have lost him in the courtship when he did loose interest; dangerously so. The power grab was made but not on her own compatability.There is 7th house cusp but without getting that subtle gemini is notoriously fickle in love and William is a double gemini ( sun@moon) When i looked up Harry’s chart- the indications were far more traditionally minded after sowing his wild oates.
the same text was written and published in local newspaper in Serbia, Belgrade, on 2011th…Its good to inform the people about the different and known persons, but its even better to put the name of the Author…Boban Vujovic / astroshop Beograd /…
Sorry but re-incarnationists always seem to get carried away with themselves!! There are slots in the collective unconscious that need to be filled; a soul may take on that mantle; as the ” uber-soul of humankind in general works out its incarnation/ deztiny. But really the theory of incarnation was a ruse invented by Bhudda to make single people more soulfull and creative and accountable in their one life-time. It is sheer ego-mania to believe souls are so impotant as toncarry a suitcase over life-times.Our collective unconscious is far vaster.
Kate Middleton.
Rectified birthtime 18h,54m59s0.
Ascendant 19°,19’36,1 Leo.
MC 04°,21’07,7 Taurus.
Marriage rectifying progressive aspect.
29-Apr-2011 009°,52’16 Scorpio Jup 120 mutual C-11
The rectification posted by Andries is right on or very nearly so, per Astrotheme which lists a 7:00 pm birth time (that could itself well be a close estimate) with an “A” rating, though the same time and source have a “C” rating at astro.com’s databank. (The source is listed as “memory”, contributed by astrologer Natalie Delahaye, who was commissioned by a friend of the couple to create a personalized chart for their wedding—a friend who presumably got the time from Kate herself.) Looking it up now for obvious reasons—thought perhaps Jamie had thoughts on her transits with the wild furor currently swirling around her…!
Hi Elle. The 7:00 pm birth time is rated C for Caution [Catherine, Princess of Wales: Astro Databank]
Well done Andries, impressive!
Thanks, Jamie—and Andries, whose rectification is impressive indeed.
Although caution is warranted given the third-handedness of the data, it also seems highly likely that a friend and wedding guest of a future king and queen would take inordinate care to verify the facts so as not to embarrass themselves by presenting an astrology chart based on an erroneous birth time—and that an accredited astrologer would likewise not punt on such a prominent chart.
Uranus has been transiting Kate’s natal Chiron, square her natal ASC (from the public 10th—in parens as I know you don’t do houses—also Saturn transit in the 8th and Pluto in the 6th—with a deeply private natal Moon in the 12th—all seem relevant to the current brouhaha). Perhaps her ordeals have caught my attention because we share the same rising degree so similar houses and to some degree planet transits (a natal Jupiter cycle apart). Hopefully it will all prove a passing tempest in a teapot upon her return to public-facing duties in a few weeks’ time—yet in the meantime much is murky and seems amiss.