2012 Election Predictions

Predicting the winner of US presidential elections is a controversial and hotly contested game for astrologers. It is good to see so many astrologers sticking their necks out and putting their reputations on the line for the upcoming US 2012 election between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. Mercury stations retrograde on election day, November 6 2012. For this reason, most of us think the result will be close or even be contested. There has been some good media coverage of astrological predictions for the election this year. At the United Astrology Conference (UAC) in November 2011, a panel of five astrologers unanimously predicted that Barack Obama would win the 2012 presidential election. This was picked up by USA Today: Panel of astrologers predicts Obama victory and Reuters: Astrologers say celestial charts favor Obama over Romney.

Astrologers Predicting Obama

The five UAC astrologers who unanimously predicted Obama to win were:
Gary Christian, Astrolabe.
Edith Hathaway, edithhathaway.com.
Claude Weiss, Astrodata.
Nina Gryphon, “With these positive factors, Obama is sitting pretty for reelection this year.” Forecast: U.S. Presidential Election 2012, Gryphon Astrology Blog, March 17, 2012.
Chris Brennan, “it is our opinion that Obama will be elected to a second term.” Prediction for the 2012 US Presidential Election, Patrick Watson and Chris Brennan, The Political Astrology Blog, April 29 2012.

Other astrologers backing Barack Obama include:
Gurmeet Singh, “Obama will win 2012 elections very easily,Will Barack Obama win the 2012 Presidential Election?, Vedic Astrology, November 26 2010.
Dharmaruci, “So Obama is likely to stay in power until Neptune has finished with him, which will be well into his second term.” The US Election and a Warning for Obama, Astrotabletalk, January 09 2012.
Bernadette Brady and Darrelyn Gunzburg, “Thus Venus indicates Obama’s return to the White House.” The Heavenly Patterns of 2012, Visual Astrology, January 2012.
Peter Stockinger, “there seems nothing to suggest that he may not be successful in his quest for re-election.” Libra Ingress 2012, Obama & the US Presidential Elections, Peter Stockinger’s Traditional Astrology Weblog, March 10 2012.
Curtis Manwaring, “As it is I cannot say for certain, but I think Obama will win a 2nd term;Election 2012 – Obama vs Romney and Beyond, The Lost Horoscope X Files, May 06 2012.
Paul Saunders, “a win for President Obama.” Barack Obama versus Mitt Romney – Who does astrology say will win the 2012 US Presidential Election?, Solaris Astrology, May 08 2012.
Christopher Kevill, “While we don’t yet know Romney’s running mate, I do think it is quite likely he will lose the election.” US Presidential Election 2012: Obama’s Saturn vs. Romney’s Sun, Modern Vedic Astrology, June 04 2012.
Anthony Louis, “I would give Obama just slightly more than a 50% chance of winning based on this horary.” Who will win the 2012 presidential election?, Anthony Louis – Astrology & Tarot Blog, August 18, 2012.
Tony Dickey, “These add to the image problem Romney had before selecting Ryan.” Romney-Ryan Horoscope: Challenges Ahead, mundaneastrologers.com, August 18 2012.
Larry Schwimmer, “It is my belief that Barack Obama will win his re-election bid.” Astrology: The Obama-Biden Ticket – Winners or Losers, Huffington Post, September 5 2012.
Lauren Howard Coleman, “So it certainly looks like the President will be re-elected in November.” US Election 2012: Obama or Romney?, Astroblog, September 19 2012.
Cranberry on the astro.com forum has predicted Obama.

Astrologers Predicting Romney

Jamie Partridge, “most of what I have looked at in the charts for Mitt Romney suggests that he will win the 2012 presidential election.” Mitt Romney Horoscope, Astrology King, May 08 2012.
Michael O’Reilly, “it’s best to confirm a possible Romney victory by checking the conditions of each candidate’s Midheaven on Inauguration day.” Election 2012 – Who Will Win, Obama or Romney?, NeptuneCafe, June 04 2012.
Ema Kurent, “Mitt Romney is a very strong rival and could get ahead of Obama soon (I write this article in the first days of June 2012), and that I wouldn’t be surprised if he won the election.” Who Wins the 2012 USA Presidential Election?, emakurent.com, June 2012.
Sandra Weidner, “Mitt Romney will win the 2012 United States presidential election.” Astrology ofThe 2012 Presidential Election, Angelfire, August 12 2012.
Ed Tamplin, “My more favourable judgements are based on the accuracy of Romney’s Midheaven and birth time.” Weekly Horoscopes October 2012, edtamplin.com, October 01 2012.
Alex Miller, “see quite a few roadblocks for Obama, and many green lights for Romney.” Election Preview II: The Case for Romney, Maya Del Mar’s Daykeeper Journal, October 01 2012.
David Hernandez, “his presidency is coming to an end.” The Demise of the Presidency 2012:, Imprimatur Stellarium, October 15 2012.
Douglas Parker, “Romney seems fated to become President.” Astrology for USA Presidential Election 2012, astrologyreadings.com, 2012.
Greg Young, Ed Falis and Gene Ray on the astro.com forum have all predicted Romney.


You can see by the lists above that about twice as many astrologers are saying that Barack Obama will win the 2012 presidential election. This is in line with the opinion polls over the last year.

155 thoughts on “2012 Election Predictions

  1. Michael, for what it’s worth, when Saturn is in Scorpio read in a few places that means Republican in White House, Reagan and Eisenhower the
    2 most recent examples.
    Thoroughly enjoy your Site.
    Best wishes John Henry

  2. I think that Lynn Hayes may have ended up predicting Obama in part 2 of her series on the election. The link you have is for part 1. You may want to double check that one.

  3. I appreciate DS easy navigation even more! scorpio sun coming! lots of snooping around, spy/vs/spy 2 badly covered ‘controversies’ benghazi, fast and furious.
    Uranius/aries is the master mind….and i’m enjoying the brainy perk. some people really are connected to the super organizing power. these people give them selves, I knew a man who was able to reach into heaven, pluck a thread and have all needs taken care of, he was a small scale socialist farmer, feeding. hosing the poor, I’m a capitalist but try and follow his example. I like people who do this

      • my farmers ‘homeless’ were booby college interns do-goodism is pretty perky.Then he taught deathly boring farming classes….grants, endownments kept rolling in and don’t forget cooking classes and fairs, GB dosen’t own the nonsence.

  4. I have done my every-4-year Tarot reading on the presidential election, and this year I came up with a composite reading of “everything is going to be okay.” So for me, it doesn’t matter. I do follow Michael O’Reilly, and he presents an interesting case based on Romney’s progressed chart. I was very disheartened by that since I favor Obama and have voted early for Obama. Of course, after the Uranus-Pluto squares get done, we probably won’t care who is in office and will be ready to lynch whoever it is, though the President is only the scapegoat for the economy. O’Reilly shows a definite conservative bias in his writings, so I am hoping his rediction is wishful thinking.

  5. The health of our future especially for women I’m sure depends on Obama to win. Romney is a rich brainwashing jerk and I hope he doesn’t win.
    I’d hate to raise my child in a world where Romney is president…. Who knows how much he could fuck up.

  6. Love it, really useful collection of links Jamie. I haven’t looked into mundane astrology a lot, but it’s good to check the different opinions and techniques…and then see what happens. Thanks for this!

    • This will keep you busy then, there’s about infinity plus 1 different techniques I came across.

      • Well, yeah, but I figured I’d check some of them now, and leave the rest for after the election, so I can compare what seemed to work with what (apparently) didn’t. Hehe 😛

  7. Not that it matters but I feel Obama will remain in office. They’re all just pawns anyway.

  8. Also, these ‘predictions’ being ‘picked up by USA today, etc’, plant a subconscious seed; it’s as though they are telling voters who will be winning-as though it is really a choice….
    or, at the very least, there is an absolute influence collectively.Whether this influence means fewer people bother to vote, or more people vote b/c of it [in this case, maybe more ppl get excited to vote and go for Obama, for example].

    Just sayin’, with the media, it’s always influencing the subconscious/collective unconscious.

    Also, I was a ron paul fan back in 2008; first time I did not vote democrat. These days, I’m astounded that people do not ‘see’ what is going on….Romney obviously is not solid enough of a candidate to challenge obama-and i’m pretty sure that is the point.

    Those still favoring Obama; it’s your choice….I just find myself continually discouraged by the lack of critical discernment available for discussion….it’s as though no conversations have grey area-only hot topic ‘pick your team’ buttons.

    Very strange times we live in.

    • I’m not happy with either candidate. Any of the 3rd party candidates would be better. My prediction was based more on gut than on logic because the actual logic is so close. At the time I posted it, Obama was being hearalded as a slam dunk and Romney didn’t have a chance, but a landslide is not good for the political advertising industry and there would be many in the media who would try to make it “close”. In any case it really doesn’t make any difference in the key issues that are killing the USA. We just choose who we want to represent us to our corporate masters and the office of president is just the chief secretaries office to the Fed and other ruling oligarchs of privelege who are generally unnamed. It is a system of “inverted totalitarianism” based not upon a charismatic leader, but a rulership based upon the anonymity of the corporate state; welcome to the age of aquarius.

    • Please define “people.” If you mean the masses, I don’t doubt you’re right. Our world is in serious trouble. When you think about who to vote for, remember that this is the first election in which our Supreme Court, in all their glorified wisdom, has ruled that Big Business can buy a president. (Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission)

      Last year I started a series of blog posts on 12/21/2012 with the intention of discovering what would happen on that day. The farther I got into it I began to realize how much of it was politics and the state of the world. The alleged “doomsday” falls midway between the election and the inauguration. Because time is cyclical, not linear, and history repeats itself, I’m afraid. Very afraid. I find myself wondering if I should move to Canada. I remember as a little girl sitting in a hellfire and brimstone church being told that in the “End Days” that there will be nowhere to hide, and after studying astrology, I understand. There is nowhere to hide from planetary energy. It gets us all. Before I get completely off track, if you study the 2012 chart–really study it–I think you’ll find the answer to the presidential election there.

      Dang it; I have to leave for a bit, but I’m coming back to read the rest of the interesting opinions here.

      • I can’t count how many times people have “moved to Canada” every time a doomsday prediction spreads around. Maybe the 12.21.2012 will actually be a change for good, for peace. Let’s go +++++.

          • I meant +++++ like a battery pole (plus). Let’s go “positive” Lesia. It was to reassure you, not an expletive! 😉

            • Oh, well, sorry about that. It’s just that every time I hear “I can’t count how many times…” I see the eyes roll. Maybe I had a Neptune moment and was unclear. It’s not the “doomsday” prediction that makes me want to emigrate. If an apocalypse ever does take place, I don’t think it will matter where any of us live. It’s conditions in the U.S. that make me want to go. Our government is completely out of control and probably beyond saving. The sheeple are too busy worshiping celebutants like the Kardashians and Snookie to notice. Depending on which statistics you believe, roughly half the people in this country never read another book after they leave high school. The mentality of the average American scares me to death. They don’t even see what is going on in front of their own noses. I agree with Irm on that!

            • ‘The sheeple are too busy worshiping celebutants like the Kardashians and Snookie to notice.’

              So true, Lesia. You and I agree on a lot of things. I’m thinking Australia if the Koch Brothers win this election.

  9. If this is a representative sample…..then thats a large percentage of astrologers who are going to be wrong! Not so good for the craft…

    …but, no doubt, the ‘after the event’ analysis will see the necessary corrections being made, astrologers being what they generally are….

    there are no winners in this kind of political reality, but….my money’s on the American public winning out, eventually

    • This is what generally happens in close races. Astrology shows the same doubt that astrologers have because there are so many different techniques to apply and judgements to be made. My problem particularly with the eminence considerations affecting how malefics operate is how to know which is more potent. Quantifying astrological influences is a major difficulty.

      • @Curtis M., I think it’s difficult to examine the natal charts and transits, because my own sense of the planets often has underlying biases. I put too much goodness into Jupiter and not much into Saturn, for example, when looking at situations like a head-to-head contest for president. But I know from experience over many decades that Jupiter can be overconfident and ‘biting off more than you can chew’, while Saturn can bring rewards and accolades for a job well done. The planets in transit work more along the lines of an individual’s past actions and developments and sometimes the astrologer can’t really know the reality behind that just by watching news clips and looking at candidate’s voting record. Jupiter transiting one MC might have less than a positive outcome depending on how realistic the candidate has been in the past. Saturn transiting the MC could also have less than a positive outcome depending how how real he/she has been with the public over time. Both can bring good news, both can bring bad news. Thus, I’m a little suspicious of predicting the outcome of elections based on transits and progressions to the natal chart.

    • Indeed!
      At a quick glance you have to ask, is astrology a fit tool for prediction of this kind, if any!
      I wonder if there is any value, or if it is possible to do a chart for the actual presidency, I.e the office say, based on the time the first president was inaugurated and then see how the candidates match with the slot? It would have to be progressed too.

      • As an experiment, I have just calculated a chart for the actual office of president based on George Washington’s inauguration in NY on 30th April 1789 at midday. If anyone knows the real time GW was inaugurated, let me know!
        I progressed the chart with tranits and looked at the two candidates natals.
        On the face of it I think Romney is a more likely candidate – but this is a very superficial first analysis! I didn’t progress their natals!
        The chart for the actual office of president has some rally interesting features, notably a yod to Saturn. If the asc is Leo and then a Neptune POF conj form the other apex for the yod this shows the inherent glamour in the position and the race for it. Neptune and the POF are also opposite Mars in Aries – so a fierce contest fought in a glamourous way using the cult of the individual candidate rather than the policies?
        A second yod has Betelgeuse and Mars at the base pouting to the N node.
        Pr Mars is conj Regulus now so perhaps there is an echo of military karma in the office – George Washington was big in military campaigns during his life and his efforts against the British key to his inauguration as the first US president.
        Romney’s Sun is conj Saturn in the presidential office chart – but for those of us who use signs, this is in Pisces and so the outcome might be deceptive! or is it the outcome of the collective unconscious? In any case, the US presidential office captures the whole world’s collective unconscious and Mr President, who ever he is is expected to walk on water! The position is a bit of a poison chalice because once you are elected you become public enemy number one!
        Looking again I see Romney has the star Markab conjunct his Sun – “Energetic, unlucky, impermanent martial honors, disappointed ambitions, accidents, sickness. ” according to Robson – so maybe even the possibility of his winning is illusionary??
        The same star is also on the Saturn of the press. office chart perhaps also implying it is somehow destined to disappoint in the grand scheme?
        We can’t study the US without considering Sirius – if the natal chart has Sun on CAncer, it is conj Sirius and the Moon conjuncts Sirius in my press. office chart.
        Overall, it makes me think the actual office is more important than the person filling it; that the president is a puppet who “channels” the influences of Sirius?
        As some of you know, I’m big into esoteric astrology of Alice Bailey/DK etc. Sirius is one of the major players in the formation and evolution of humanity. Certainly the 20th century was shaped by the US/Sirius?
        Sirius is associated with freedom – its annual solar conjunction in JUly has a lot of “freedom” dates around it – http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/cossynthreflects/sirius.html. Of course the Declaration of INdependence is a statement of freedom!
        Does the role of president polarise the electorate into issues of “freedom v oppressor” – with the yod into saturn in Pisces maybe is says freedom is an illusion if you expect it to come from an office – or a (saturn) father figure who is seen as a saviour (pisces)?
        Sirius is listed as our brightest star – which means it is the most electrically active and therefore the most influential on us in terms of interactive magnetic fields.
        Obama’s chart is more suggestive of the glamour base of the yod? The Leo element searching for the grail? But then maybe his and America’s search for the magic bullet president is not over yet?In the final reckoning, does it matter who the president is as a personality? He’s a device which fits into the official role for a while, a wheel and a cog turn…
        Now really finally..!!… I like the idea of creating a chart for he position based on the science of Biologist Rupert Sheldrake. SHeldrake postulates there is a “space” for which any living creature is received into – i.e despite its genes, a reciprocal “slot” has to support the growth.
        We can view this as a slot on the matrix or the “support of the UNiverse” for a process to take place. The process might be more important than the creature or puppet acting it out.

        • OMG I make so many typos! “mars at the base pouting…” I thnk he POINTS! Can’t see Mars pouting!!

        • BTW – the Pr Asc in the presidential office start would be at 11 Pisces – interesting opposition to Zosma, Marina! Zosma likes to be seen a a saviour in a big cause! Romney’s natal mercury conjuncts this point now.

            • Thanks Jamie – will revise observations accordingly! I like the idea of Sheldrake’s morphogenic fields – of which I see the US presidential office to be a very big one!

          • Then the asc is Leo but not the base of the YOD – however it is conj Regulus!

          • Hi Jamie,

            I think the facts are more complicated. Eye witness reports suggest George Washington arrived at the Federal Hall, New York at about 1.00pm. However, there was a delay in the inauguration proceedings after Washington arrived as there was no Bible for him to take the oath of office. As a result they had to wait for someone to get a Bible from a local Freemasons Hall. Zip Dobyns research led her to use a time of 1.20 LAT and Dane Rudhyar separately came up with the same time of 1.20
            (LMT?) following his historical research.

            In this period neither standard time or even Local Mean Time were yet utilised. The contemporary sources are therefore describing Local Apparent (or Solar) time not LMT.

            I personally work with a time of 1.20 LMT at present. This gives a Virgo ASC and Gemini MC. This links in well to many presidential charts. Both Obama and Romney have clear links to the Gemini MC.

            • THanks MArk – I’ll revise again! I was wondering about the time frame used then too. So the chart for the office is still a bit sketchy but your Gemini MC looks good! Full of talk but duplicitous!!

  10. Nice list Jamie,

    I think I will display this list over on Skyscript if you dont mind. Its a nice summary.

    Like you I have noticed the weight of astrological opinion has heavily favoured Obama. Although Michael O’Reilly controversially suggests this reflects the left leaning stance of most astrologers! However, lately I have noticed more astrologers who favour Romney. Increasingly, a lot of discussion is happening on Facebook these days so I cant provide a link to it all. However, its worth pointing out that two respected traditional astrol ogers Steven Birchfield and David Hernandez are strongly favouring Romney to win. In terms of modern astrology I also notice Marjorie Orr has been giving the nod to Romney. Hernandez has a website where his prediction can be found: http://imprimaturstellarum.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/the-demise-of-presidency-2012.html

    • I am very new to astrology so based on my self-taught interpretations of astrology and its houses, the following is what I concluded:

      I did Obama’s solar return chart and a transit chart for Nov 6 at 11.30 pm. It shows that Uranus is in his 10th house of career, indicating there is a disruptive transformation in his career and professional life. He losses the election.
      In addition, Obama turned 51 a few months ago, activating his Chiron return. On Nov 6, Obama has Chiron in Pisces transiting in his 9th house. With his Chiron returned, (Chiron, known as the wounded healer, is famous for bringing up awareness with experiences of suffering and difficulties) Obama will be unsuccessful in exerting his old, outdated mode of socialism and communism on us. Now that Saturn has transited out of Libra into Scorpio will shift us away from our relationship with others toward our inner selves. We are awakened. Chiron will teach /show Obama that inflicting hardship our economy, employment, small businesses and corporations will not work. (Note: John Quincy Adams, our 6th President, had Chiron in Pisces in the 9th house served only 1 term.) Lastly, Obama has pluto transiting in Capricorn in his 7th house of partnership, meaning there is alteration, transformation and breakup of partnership. He is being fired and leaving the White House!!! Yeah!!!

      Romney’s solar return chart and transit on Nov 6 at 11.30 pm is just golden!!! Romney has the sun in his 10th house of career, showing an advancement in career. He wins the election.
      Secondly, Chiron in Pisces transits his 2nd house of other peoples money, possessions and values. Chiron teaches and advises. Hence, Romney the healer will show people how to take care of their money and possessions better than his own. By the way, even in Romney’s natal chart, he has Chiron in his 2nd house. He is a natural at building and creating companies that created so many jobs (Staples, Bain, Sports Authority etc ) and was very successful !
      Thirdly, Uranus is transiting in Aries in his 2nd house. Pallas also transiting Pisces in his 2nd house. Hence, it is safe to conclude that Romney will be helping us to awaken and to organize our natural talents, tapping into ways of using resources, pioneering entrepreneurship, getting into technology advancement, people venturing into capitalism in businesses. It looks to me that Romney will be working hard to help us turn the economy around. HE is the one for the job. Romney/Ryan for 2012. I predict a landslide for Romney, despite Mercury will be in retrograde!

      • Very interesting analysis! Look at the chart for the presidential office, times given above. The PIscean connection is really important I think and I wonder if Romney wins might he put a very different face on the presidential position?
        He also has the iron fist of Saturn PLuto conj in Leo which crushes Obama’s Mercury/b.m Lilith and Sun. So I see echoes of past life military business with Romney as conqueror?

        • fascinating! that just gave me chills, reading what you wrote about a past life connection, uberqueenofwands.

      • just reread, great simple words make complex the same…I tell you 4 year ago it was darkness and dispair…now a fair-ground of light and music.
        I like the positive responce Romney gives at the sence of love…he’s all happy…36 appearences to O’s 18.

    • Thanks Mark, have added David’s prediction. Of course you can link on Deb’s forum.

      I was actually going to quote Michael’s suggestion in the post but decided to keep it less controversial.

      “However, many political astrologers – perhaps 80 percent – have an inherent bias toward the progressive movement, and thus turn a blind eye to a possible Republican win.” http://www.neptunecafe.com/election2012.html

      • That’s very interesting. When Neil Kinnock was a certainty to win the UK elections in 1992 all the polls said he would coast it – but Mercury was retro when the polls were taken… oopsie!

    • Hmm…
      Esoterially alcyone is the star which magnetically pulls the whole system –

      Alcyone and Humanity constitute a most interesting triangle of force. Alcyone is one of the seven Pleiades and is called the “star of the Individual” and sometimes the “star of intelligence.” It was potently active during the previous solar system wherein the Third Person of the Trinity was peculiarly omnipotent and active, just as today the cosmic Christ, the Second Person of the Trinity, is peculiarly active in this solar system. The energies coming from Alcyone impregnated the substance of the universe with the quality of mind. As a consequence of this most ancient activity, the same force was present at the time of individualization in this solar system, for it is in this system, and primarily upon our planet, the Earth, that the major results of that early activity have made themselves felt. Two of our planets, the Earth (non-sacred) and Uranus (sacred), are directly the product of this third ray activity. This is of great importance to remember. I would also ask you to link this thought with the teaching that through the divine center of intelligent activity which we call humanity, the fourth kingdom in nature will eventually act as the mediating principle to all the three lower kingdoms. Humanity is the divine Messenger to the world of form; it is essentially Mercury, bringing light and life to other divine manifestations and of this all divine world Saviors are the eternal symbols

      Alcyone – in the Pleiades, the mothers of the seven aspects of form life and the “wives of the seven Rishis of the Great Bear.” They are connected with the Mother aspect which nurtures the infant Christ.

      Aquarius – the World Server, the transmitter of energy which evokes magnetic response.

      from The Secret Doctrine.
      Sources have the US with Aquarius moon – the unconscious magnetic force and sun in Cancer – the mother aspect.
      I think there’s a lot more to Alcyone and the Pleiades on the MC than just disgrace and ruin. Look at the role of the US – when any nation is in trouble they look to the US for help (mother/parent) when they d help its wrong.. when they don’t its wrong!
      Satan or Saviour? saturn in Pisces of the presidential office!
      That Taurus/Gemin degree is the ‘gate of man” to the ancients (Egyptians at least) where man was supposed to enter into form – note Alcyone/PLeaides apparently imbued man with a mind – hence the blend of bodily form (Taurus) and duality of mind (Gemini). The opposing point – the gate of God is where we now find Ophiucus. It interests me that America still has a Christian backdrop (saviour god) and assumes a “right” to run the show!

  11. pisces is the fountian of youth, especially the crowd of planets romney has. this will be apparent in the debate, youthful older man, stiff maladroite, obama. I think obama has cap a/c, 8/5 as dob, both

  12. I was stunned to find out that Mitt Romney’s fathers’ name was George W Romney. If Mitt is elected, everyone can expect the same policies that plunged the world economy into almost complete dire straights to then cast it forever into the irretrievable abyss. Other than the stars, a few good signs about what could be in store come from Mitt’s fathers’ name, and Mitts’ name itself. You can be sure that this ‘one percenter’ and his crew will get their MITTS on youR-MONEY and those who support Obama’s health care plan will be ALL CRYIN’ when Paul Ryan implements his repeal/replace agenda instead. The choice is gravely clear. I almost desperately hope that the road to real progress, that one that steadily stretches towards equality and the greater good of the whole, will prevail.

  13. The elections are decided by more than one factor. I tend to agree with the assessment that the office of POTUS is more important than the person who fills the office, that the person is more of a puppet than anything else.

    Our votes don’t put a president in office in any case. I’d look at the Electoral College, too. See what’s going on with them. I did read that angry Ron Paul electors may do some interesting things based on the way the Republican Convention was managed rather than allowed to happen. They may vote differently than expected, and according to the article I read, Ron Paul doesn’t seem inclined to do anything about it.

    Obama seems more milque-toasty than he was the first time around. He tends to need a challenge before he rises to an occasion. If there isn’t a domestic or foreign political challenge forthcoming, he may not get around to acting in a more commanding, presidential manner. He has also managed to offend his progressive base over the last four years. He didn’t keep many of his promises and his shoddy treatment of the Bill of Rights has surpassed even Bush’s, so it would take more than a choice between the “lesser of two evils” to bring out the voters as in 2008. I don’t know that his public speaking ability could pull him out of that trough, though stranger things have happened.

    With Mercury being retrograde, I would think either Romney or Obama could commit a faux pas just prior to the election, although Romney tends to put both feet in his mouth and masticate more than Obama does. The inclination to misspeak may already be in his chart, so I might look for that and see whether there’s something in the near future that could set off that inclination. It’s usually people in Obama’s entourage who say stupidest things, but issues with hangers-on don’t usually make up voters’ minds.

    I would not only look at the day in question, I’d look at: upcoming planetary challenges for the candidates as well as for the country, but not simply on 11/6; the possibility for elector defections and/or other problems within Electoral College; the challenges for both Big Parties; and finally, the possibility of deception or theft of the election.

    BTW, Obama was born on 8/4. I only know off the top of my head because it’s my daughter’s birthday. 🙂

    Disclaimer: I don’t belong to either the Democratic or Republican parties.

    • Just for fun.. or not!! Herewith a chart for the November Solar eclipse and the US Presidential office as per Washington’s inauguration. Its not a pretty sight! Perhaps the office itself needs an overhaul.

  14. Adding the chart for the second debate which stars in a couple of hours.

    Mars at 7 Sagittarius activates the combative synastry between Obama and Romney. Obama’s Pluto (6 Virgo) is opposite Romney’s Mars (6 Pisces). So transiting Mars makes a T-square to their Mars Pluto opposition. The battle should be intense. Even though Mars is square Romney’s Mars, he should win the battle because it is also sextile his MC. Another thing in Romney’s favor is that the Moon and Mercury trine his Mercury.

          • Chantal, I’m not American and have no political preference for either Romney or Obama, just for the record. I also don’t consider myself neither dumb or hysterical, but the binders comment was a socially awkward comment in my opinion. For someone running for Presidency, he could and should have chosen his words better given the issue he was addressing – EQUAL pay for WOMEN – was an impt. one for working women …. not the least of which – and probably more so – because American women have already been subjected to the Republican Party’s (via Akin) inappropriate remarks about rape and abortion. … so hardly surprising then that the binders comment was picked to shreds on social media, given the image it connoted (that of women as mere objects for men).

            Some would say this is just semantics, however sometimes the words that spill out of someone’s mouth can say a lot more than that person really would want us to know.

            If I were Romney I would be a little worried about just how he is being perceived by many women. Also, him addressing the debate moderator as “Candy, Candy, Candy” didn’t show much respect to her and neither the female gender, in my opinion.

  15. retro/mercury played out, at the time it felt like obama did ok, play back bad! not a good idea to lie for the camera, later in bed at night trying to enjoy the warm glow of sucess when all over the world people are unraveling the truth. nothing more terrible than a short victory. the audience when asked later after seeming to respond to obama actually liked romney better. responded to a silly child but choosing the adult. The kid thought he won.

    • There is very little substance to either side in this debate. They arrested Jill Stein and other 3rd party candidates have been excluded from this corporate duopoly that provides us with the illusion of free choice. Obama is to the right of Eisenhower, and Romney is to the right of Obama. There is no left left. The liberal class was meant to function as a relief valve that allowed piecmeal reforms while continuing the general policies of the 1%, but now that the liberal class is dead within the political system of the USA (and it is spreading around the globe due to corporatism) all that they have to offer is force while hiding behind the anonymity of the corporate state in what is known as “inverted totalitarianism” because it no longer features the charisma of a leader like Hitler or Stalin. Such a state operates by controlling the media and having “lively discussion” that is always controlled within certain bounds and kept away from forbidden subject, such as NDAA, etc…

    • A quick view of various internet sites will confirm that the is no such thing as ONE opinion of THE audience. On the other hand, you WILL find a lot of positive appraisals of Obama and a lot of negative ones on Romney´s condescending attitude towards women, to name just one. Not a sweeping victory for any of the two, but ‘silly child’ vs ‘adult’? I really don’t think so… but everyone’s completely free to see what they choose. After all, we have different sets of eyes, not to mention different heads on our shoulders, so…

  16. Seriously, as a gay man, I don’t want Romney and Ryan ANYWHERE near the White House. Not to mention, we had a disastrous 8 years with a Republican administration . . . it saddens me that this is even a contest.

  17. If President Obama wins Ohio or Virginia he has a second term due to the Electoral College. All of this astrological analysis says to me is Gov. Romney may win the popular vote, but will not have enough electoral votes to beat President Obama. President Obama will be disappointed on election day because he decisively won the popular vote in 2008. The election will look like the reverse of Kerry/Bush in 2004, with the Democrats winning in Ohio, possibly Florida, and Virginia.

    Try the astrological chart of the Democratic and Republican parties. I think that will give a better indication of election, as the presidential candidates represent political parties (nominees of their respective conventions).

    If you are not a young, heterosexual, Christian, rich white male I don’t see the Romney/Ryan ticket doing anything for you. I like Alejandro am VERY disappointed.

  18. I also wanted to add that the President of the United States is “elected” on January 6, 2013. That is when the US Congress meets in a Joint Session to count all of the electoral votes and name the President and Vice President of the United States. So the astrological analysis of the candidate’s charts on election day in November is misleading since the President is not technically elected until January. The general election is a selection of electors from the 50 states and District of Columbia. The “election day” vote determines the electors from your state and how they will vote in January. So, to accurately predict the outcome of the November 6 election by birth date, you’d need the astrological information for each elector (Republican & Democrat) in each state. You could probably do the chart of the Conventions (DNC & RNC) as a substitute since the Electors were chosen at the Democratic National Convention and Republican National Convention this summer.

    I think that is why astrologers results are not reliable respecting the outcome of the election, the President is elected in January.

    • Indeed. The Electoral College is unpredictable. The electors are expected to vote a certain way, but they don’t always do what they’re expected to do. Some of the Ron Paul electors have threatened to vote for him rather than Mitt in protest for what happened at the RNC.

  19. Thank you for putting this together Jamie! All the comments are very enlightening as well.

  20. one of the largest discrepancies (and an astrologers’ worst nightmare) with obama is the lack of released birth data. is the only way to derive a natal chart for him by chart rectification?i find it interesting political astrologers focus only on the main frontrunners and ignore independent candidates. sun-kronos=mc could be a potent planetary picture to consider… 🙂

    • I’m puzzled about this, spaceman. I thought President Obama’s birth data had been released, in the form of a birth certificate, with a time on it.

      • What do people need to prove he was born in Hawaii, other than the ctrazy right wing trying to put fear in everyone, THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE, UNAMERICAN, AND NOT A CHRISTIAN WAY OF LIVING!

    • No released birth time for Obama? What a stinking load of birther BS, spaceman…

    • The given birth time (7.24 pm) and date produces a highly credible chart, right down to the Sabian symbols on the angles. The Scorpio midheaven is perfect for the polarised opinions the President attracts, and the mistrust and spite that seems to follow him around (a Kenya birth gives a Sagittarius MC which doesn’t fit him at all). Choosing not to believe the evidence of a published birth certificate, which in turn implies belief in a massive, years-long conspiracy involving dozens of people, really is Scorpio territory. Plus, the astrology fits the man. The Hawaii birth time gives a 4th house Gemini Moon, absolutely perfect for someone who moved a lot as a child and who has struggled with his mixed race identity. A Kenyan birth gives a 3rd house Moon in Taurus. No way is that right.

      • The information on obamas school records say born in kenya lived in indonisia. where he went to school. So i will not do charts for obama. It’s like doing a chart based on the usa birth time unknown. Maybe a sun chart would be more suitable. I don’t know the truth in either case.

  21. I didn’t find it as clear-cut as many others seem to have done. I had to go all the way to Inauguration Day. I predict Romney will win. That is my astrological opinion, not necessarily my personal choice.

    T Mercury conjunct his N MC
    T Sun high in the 9th, trine his N ASC
    T Moon conjunct his N ASC
    T Jupiter conjunct his N North Node in the 1st
    and on and on.

    In addition, the November Solar Eclipse conjuncts his N Moon / Jupiter conjunction in the 6th of service, and trines his N Sun;

    The November Lunar Eclipse trines his N MC.

    Don’t forget that Inauguration Day falls on a Sunday. The elected president will be sworn in on Sunday as required by the U.S. Constitution, but a ceremony for the public will be held the next day, January 21, 2013.

  22. In the last Presidential debate as well as the “Roast” of both Obama and Romney, I’m starting to see an aura around Romney.. The momentum is growing for him..and as Lesia stated the total Solar eclipse on Nov 13, 2012 conjunct his Moon /Jupiter trining his Natal sun( who’s energy will start weeks before the actual eclipse) aide in this momentum.

  23. next debate 10/22 has a beautiful aquarius moon seemingly gives sag/mars license to trounce all opposition, uranius/aries is brilliant, while jupiter/gemini is already sending ballons aloft. but wait aquarius/moon insists on truth and justice, she’s the sword beneath the blindfold, ready to smash what isn’t right.

  24. The planets have changed since obamas election and Mitt romney has a grand trine to his mid heaven with very strong connections to those changed planets. Uranus in aries moved from the sign of dreams and endings pisces. Pluto moved from freedom loving sagitarius to a more executive capricorn and make very strong connections to romneys grand trine that conects to his midheaven. These aspects are very close and strong.

    • Sorry about that nightmare. It’s been the same long four years of nightmare for all of us!!!!

      • Georgina
        please speak for yourself. I would appreciate you not include everyone in your rather closed minded and absurd opinion that we have “all” struggled during the Obama administration. After all, some of us actually live in the real world.

          • I took out my tarrot cards and i drew a nine of penticals for obama and the empriss for romney. We will see.
            Back to charts.
            I have not compaired to the usa chart because that is a hotly contested chart and i have not compaired to obamas chart because that is another hotly contested chart.
            I have used only the knowns romneys birth chart and the transet planets.
            From what little i have learned when the outter planets move it means change.
            Greg for some reason the majority of the people who love obama do not live in the usa or work for the government or want something free. This is a worry and a drag on nations. Let’s as us citizens who want nothing but sucess for our nation hope for change.

            • Your fundamental lack of English skills are proof of how deperately we need to improve our education here in the US. Romney wants to cut back on that.

              I will not be called into a debate over birther nonsense that somehow after over three years a vast conspiracy still exists to hide President Obama’s supposed Kenyan origin. Maybe you still believe the Earth is flat too.

              Obama is to the right of Richard Nixon and Dwight D Eisenhower, yet he is painted as a leftist extremist by the Limbaugh crowd and others. I voted for Obama and against more military spending and an even more right-leaning Supreme Court.

            • Sorry – desperate has an ‘s’ in it. My keyboard is wearing out from Darkstar blogging. 🙂

    • I’m not trying to be offencive I,m really going by the facts given. What is true, what is not true, I really have no way of judging. Why are you offended? I can no more say a chart of the usa is accurate as I can Obamas.
      Below are Indonesian school records for Barry Soetoro, aka, Barack Obama. This is some, but by no means all, of the evidence that Barack Obama was and is an Indonesian citizen, regardless of where he was born.

      Obama’s paternal grandmother affirming she “was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961.”


      With that kind of confusion I cannot in ethicly make any predictions or a chart.
      I am not the issue the issue is charts and astrology.

      • I’m willing to ignore the fact that Mitt Romney’s father George was born in Mexico in 1908 in a Mormon polygamist commune. John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Why do the Republicans not worry more about their own candidates’ roots? Mitt may be a Latino after all. Si se puede. 🙂

        • Please do some research before you spout rubbish. Records for the Romney family is freely available and hardly controversial. Obama’s records aren’t considering he campaigned on the promises of transparency and doing things differently in the WH,he sure is the most mysterious, divisive and controversial POTUS ever!. start here.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney and then do some home work, then come come and tell us what you can find about Obama.. cheers

        • You obviously are NOT ignoring it because it is your first sentence. If we are all accountable to the foibles of our ancestors, then Obama has a lot of responsibility on his own plate.

  25. As per The Horoscopes available of Mitt Romney and Barrack Obama . The horoscope of Mitt Romney is stronger than Barrack Obama for the Presedential Elections of 2012 for USA Romney is running the Dasha of Sun-Mercury-Rahu and both Sun and Mercury are placed in the 10th House. In D10 Sun placed in the 9th house and Mercury is placed in the 6th house of competitions . Sun is Digbali in D1 and Sun is also a yogi planet for the chart together with Mercury and Rahu Sun is Lord of the 4th house of Throne . In Transit Rahu is placed in the 7th house of Pad Prapti and its Dispositor Mars is also with it in the 7th house and aspecting the 10th house , this combination is extremely good for Mitt Romney. Transit Moon will be over the 10th Lord saturn on the 6th Nov. 2012 In Nadi progression charts Sun-Mercury and Rahu all placed in the 11th house of achievements.Another plus point in the Nadi Progression chart is Saturn will acquire the status of a Yogi planet who is the 10th Lord of D1 . Barack Obama is running the Dasha of Saturn-Saturn-Saturn and Saturn is not Digbali in the chart since placed in the Lagna . Saturn is combusted in transit on the 6th Nov. 2012 the day of elections . Deb. Sun who is the Lord of the 8th house will be placed in the 10th house in Transit and the Dispositor Venus of both Sun and Saturn placed there will be deblitated. Transit Moon on the 6th Nov. 2012 will be in the 7th house over the 8th lord Sun. Sun the 8th Lord will be in the 10th house Deb. In Nadi Progression charts the Lagna Lord Saturn is fallen and the Lagna Lord of the Progression chart and the 10th Lord both being Jupiter is deblitated . Saturn here is also the 11th and 12th Lord . Hence there are dark chances of Barrack Obama coming back to power. Mercury is also getting Retrograded on the day of elections , there will also be some confusion on the Elections front as well. Mitt Romnet D.O.B 12th March 1947 09-51 Detriot USA Barrack Obama 4th August 1961 19-24 hrs Honolulu Hawaii. The predictions are based on the Horoscopes taken from website Journal of Astrology .Let us wait and watch the Results.Almost all celebrity astrologers giving positive predictions on Obama Horoscope. With Due Respects to the analysis by my friends , I have some reservations due to the following points. 1. Saturn is Exhalted in Libra but combusted from 8th Oct. to 10th Nov. 2012 and its dispositor Venus is deblitated from 24th Oct. to 18th Nov. 2012. Sun although in Deblitation as per rules of combustion will give the results of the combusted planet , hence Saturn is not capable to give the desgnitated results. More over Saturn on 6th Nov. 2012 will be in the nak. of Swati and nak of Obama is Rohini , in the second triad starting 1/3 portion being Viput Tara and 12th from Moon nak. is malefic and is capable of giving unexpected losses, unsolved problems, hanging fire. Saturn Transitted in Libra on the 14th Nov 2012 and then Moon was in Gemini, as per Moorty Nirnaya it was Rajata moorty, and placed in the 6th from the natal Moon. Although it is favourably placed in the 6th house from Moon, but not in good Tara and combusted will it be able to give the desired results . Saturn is also in the 2nd Paraya for him . Saturn in the 2nd cycle gives material gains and Physical problems. Obama is also running the dasha of Saturn-Saturn-Saturn.Hence Saturn will not be able to give concrete good results. I am not contradicting anybody, please keep this in mind . Nobody is taking into account the Retrogration of Mercury on the Day of Elections the 6th Nov. 2012 and Rahu in forward movement , which can totally change the situation create some confusion in the Election results.Thanks !

    • I really agree, the chart of Romney looks better, on the destiny cards astrology, but whomever wins is aligned with the fate of the country

  26. Alabama Statistician Predicts Big Obama Win
    October 4, 2012 by Sam Rolley

    Alabama-based astrophysicist and statistician Wes Colley says that the Presidential race is already over and that President Barack Obama is well on his way to re-election.

    Using a simple method of measuring poll data which he has employed to correctly predict the outcome of the past two Presidential elections, Colley believes Obama has locked up Ohio and Virginia and holds a small lead in Florida that will jettison him to electoral victory.

    “I think the operative word is disaster if you’re a Republican,” Colley told al.com on Monday. “I think the operative word is confidence if you’re a Democrat.

    “These things can swing a lot. But it would have to swing a lot a lot.”

    Colley teaches statistics and physics-based modeling at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. His method predicts Obama winning the election with 348 electoral votes and Romney with only 190.

    • I’d say that Wes Colley forgot to take into account the massive voter fraud that is about to be unleashed this election cycle (from the Romney owned voting machines in Ohio to the voter suppression efforts in Florida).

      • It’s also possible that disruption from Hurricane Sandy could hurt Obama’s chances.

  27. Is there anything in astrology to indicate that NO election takes place?

    If the hurricane devastates most of the USA…and if another big quake happens……then is it possible that the election will have to be postponed?….and Obama stays in power for a bit longer?


    Going by the above link, Obama is about to sieze control of the internet. Looks to me as if he still has on going ‘plans”

  28. Methodology for the Predictions should be correct, Irrespective of the Results since the Horoscopes can be wrong also. Lets wait and see , day is not far.

  29. Mercury is turning Retrograde and Rahu is in forward motion on the day of elections, these two parameters alone are indicative of some confusion on the day of elections. Rahu the north node of Moon is capable of any thing , but other parameters are to be seen for the untoward happenings . Jupiter and Mercury Retrogression and opposition on the day of elections is also not good.. There will be certainly some confusions and rethought in the minds of the voters on the day of elections.

  30. All the birthers give me a laugh. We believe what we want and disbelieve what we don’t want to be true. From listening to Romney and Ryan, anyone who checks the facts can tell that they reject the truth and introduce lies.
    Romney’s n Asc is being squared by t Neptune and his n Saturn is being quincunxed by t Neptune. He’s a bold liar and will lose.

    • My concern with Romney is his scorpionic ability to keeps secrets. It’s deception that we need the least of and I have continually sensed this before ever validating it via his chart. The abhorrent lack of plans, details and facts spins his mind into utter confusion pisceans know all too well especially when Neptune weighs so heavily at this time. This is not a favorable time for is power seems constrained and inconsistent. Obama light is shining bright now in the area of groundedness and leadership based on a deep emotional connection with service to the country. he genuinely likes people, young and old with equal appreciation. I’m not getting a conflict in a planetary sense tonight, despite the storm headed in to the east coast. The field of existence is supportive and clear. We’ll see.

  31. My prediction that Romney will win is based on Neptune too. Using Isaac Starkman’s rectification, Neptune at election time primary directs to natal IC=Sa=Ur/Ne. This is powerful angularity, despite its apparent manifestation as deception and oil money. Add a little directed Merc sq Ne, a little directed Ne sq natal Mo, directed Pl 135 natal Ne, directed Pl sextile Su, directed Merc sextile Ju, directed Ve trine Su. The trickster gets the baton, as far as I can see. I do happen to trust Starkman’s rectification based on his previous work (09:31:48 EST).

    Of course, I’d be happy to be wrong. Unfortunately I wasn’t in 04.

    – Ed

  32. I’m an amatuer, but looking over President Obama’s chart, mercury retrograde will be in his 10th house of career, he will have to re-endure that’s the word coming to me, or meaning he will be re-elected.

    • Mercury will go in Retrogression on the 6th Nov. 2012 and will be fallen on the 19th Nov. 2012 . A Planet which attains the status of a Fallen planet is the most venomous planet, how can it give benefic results, more over it will be with Rahu and Mars , It can only create ecentricities and undetermined thoughts in the minds of the people voting, I dont think this is a good combination for Obama, Please donot take it otherwise, I am only discusssing the possibilities. Almost all the celebrity astrologers are Predicting the Success of Obama, but is it merely prediction or on the bases of the Wave of the People giving the votes. I know there is a strong wave for Obama , which astrologically is not coming so, If you Use the Progression charts of completion of the 51st Year. Obama Satrun is Fallen and Jupiter deblitated in the chart. Obama is running the dasha of Saturn-Saturn-Saturn, how do we explain this ?I am not contradicting anybody, I am only analysing the charts without any emotions and influence of the wave in the US.

      • You dont base the election for the highest office based on Mercury or “progressions” etc. Even though I dont take dashas into account, but your Sat Sat Sat dasha means work work work! What else do you expect in the tough four years! We are not talking about Venus and love and marriage here.

        In the transits you look at Saturn which is right on top of Obama’s chart while Romney is well behind. Saturn squaring Obama’s chart indicates the delays etc that he may encounter but also increased focus and is a test of his organizational skills that is all.

        The most important thing in terms of what he will accomplish can be seen not by astrology alone but through palmistry as well. Obama’s Head line is widely separate from the Life line which means he will made major changes this time without being influenced by those whose interests do not go along with the US public.

        Those with Head line joined maintain the status quo while those with it separate make the changes (Bill Clinton also has it separate!).

        Their main purpose is to provide the vision and inspire others and leave it to others with Head line joined to implement their work.

        I think it will be very useful for everyone to give their reasoning why they feel one candidate will win and not just that the planets are indicating it.

  33. Hi Marina,
    Here is what I wrote about Obama being a two time president in Oct 2008! This is one month before he was elected President!



    (Updated Oct 2008)

    US Election Update: Just a quick note to remind our readers that our prediction about a Barak Obama landslide seems to be coming true. We made this even before he was nominated as the Democratic candidate so his time of birth is probably right. We still see Obama as essentially a two time president (he will still have a few years public response ahead of him after that…

    • I had made my predictions based on Obama’s chart before he even became President as Saturn was rising in his chart and Hilary’s was not. Romney’s Saturn is still in his 6th house and also next two years it would be touching off his Moon in Scorpio!

      Also look at the chart of inauguration on 21st Jan 2013 and you will see Obama has planets right on top. Moon in Leo also is another reason why he was the chosen winner today.

      I saw a lot of analysis here based on directions or progressions. You really have to look at major transits and if it doesn’t show up there it wont show up anywhere else.

      He will do extremely good work now as his Head line is totally separate from the Life line and these are the only people who make major changes. He will also bring back the military before 2014 probably as he is not going to be held back by the agenda of others.

      The Republican Party is clueless about the Middle East and they would have got the put the world in another major war and with Saturn in Scorpio it would have been really dangerous. The fact that Netanyahu made a commercial in Florida shows how these people shamelessly tried to affect the US election.

      We will make progress much faster now I am sure.

    • No one takes people like you serious anymore. Why? Just reading through your site’s “U.S. presidential election predictions”, which is so full of personal bias and unfavourable comments. It’s really a SHAME!I love Darkstar Astrology because of it’s neutrality. Think about that..

      • I think you are the one who is biased, you Obama lover. If you are not biased, you will see that Dark Star Astrology is only analyzing and comparing the planets in Romney’s chart vs Obama’s. The one with the more favorable and supportive planets is indicative of winning the Presidency because the probability is the highest. In this comparison, Romney has the better chart and therefore, he is the most likely candidate to win. You dont like the result of this analysis and therefore you are accusing Dark Star Astrology as being biased. Nothing more.

        • To quote Uberqueenofwands:

          “Wow! Quite an authority. Who are you?”

          Such lack of respect will get you nowhere, Georgina. Take a break from your incessant blather and listen to yourself!

      • I Started to write this last night. We dont need to be insulting anyone here or anywhere else. Everyone has th e right to expres their point of view but not put others down. OBAMA did win. I used psychic abilities over a year ago then coroborated my sense of Obama’s chart to election day. Yes Romney id have good aspects too. But for me th eoverall sens of things as it turned out was progressive even as simple as the Uranus Pluto Square withVenus in Libra joingin it on election day. Blessings

  34. Psychic Rev Greg Kehn of Youngstown, Ohio. He usually pretty accurate in predictions say Obama will win.

  35. Romney will win. Obama will be toppled by transiting Saturn over his radical Neptune end of the year. Plus, of course, Romney’s extraordinary chart and progressions.

    • Saturn conjuncting Neptune applies to his entire generation! It only means he will take the plight of the poor much more seriously and instead of taking it like a stumbling block he will take it as a stepping stone and will work harder. Saturn squaring his Mercury will make him work harder and Jupiter touching off his Leo planets will help him inspire others even more.

    • I dont think it is the Western astrology but the interpretation of individual astrologers. The timing in both the systems is identical actually just in different signs. Natal chart is where they are 22 degrees behind and their interpretation sound really ridiculous but that is why they hardly speak about the natal chart.

      If you make Ayanumsa zero degrees instead of 22 then they will be amazingly accurate probably.

  36. Judging from the outcome, it might be the case that one’s solar return is absolutely stellar, giving them a very, very good year indeed. But a ‘good year’ does not necessarily include becoming President.

  37. Well, Romney just conceded defeat… If he runs in 2016, his ZR spirit and annual profections look spectacular (and again in 2024 his ZR spirit hits 10th from fortune – if he lives that long). However, in a leaders chart, the position of the Moon indicates the state of the people (commoners). In late Scorpio it is fallen and contrary to sect, but helped by a Jupiter conjunction in the 6th/7th. Obama’s Moon flows forth from a Jupiter trine and of the sect in favor in the 5th.

  38. I think it would be very useful for everyone to give their reasons why they thought the person they picked would win. Regardless of whether they were right or wrong, it is the reasoning that everyone can benefit from. HJ

  39. On a concrete lvel, it was totally illogical that Mr. Romney was going to win. The Republican Party is outdated and gping further to appeal to radical threads in American Society. We focus so much on keeping religion and state seperate but corporate interest are frightenly enmeshed in American politics. quite frankly, both parties need a change og perspective.

  40. I don’t know if I will be able to join in the “What has the 2012 Election Taught Us?” discussion. But, Jamie, I would like to point out that I predicted Obama would win re-election [ http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/us-presidential-election-2012/ ] and was on record in at least 3 different forums nearly all year saying this. I do know what I’m doing with my weird little rectified charts and unconventional Ascendants and have been wrong about only 1 US election since 2000. Being wrong just pushes us to look deeper and use more layers of indicators. That’s the strategy I took and it keeps us from the limits of a one-school perspective.

    • it is amazing how some astrologers go to such lengths devling in illogical conclusions. Divine truth is very simple not complicated and not based on “progressions” where each day in the womb equals one year outside of it! The most important aspect of the presidential election here was that Obama had Saturn on top of his charts, Romney didn’t! Sun was also on his MC like in the last election as his MC is Scorpio so every November is good! Moon was in Leo also and he is a Leo. I wrote in Oct 2008 that Obama will win the Presidency at that time and will be a two time president (this was one month before he even won the election) and all based on just the Saturn transit and Jupiter.

  41. This is quite interesting to see. I have never seen this kind of list in any of the astrology sites, where they have given the list of astrologers predictions very honestly. This is a good step in the right direction. Hope astrologers who are in the list who failed predicting Obama’s win will take this as a learning curve ahead !

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