Venus Retrograde

Venus Retrograde 2020Venus Retrograde Transit

Transiting Venus retrograde occurs once every 19 months for a total of six weeks (42 days). This means Venus is retrograde only 7% of the time, the least amount of any planet. The next closest is Mars retrograde at 9% then Mercury retrograde at 19%. Therefore, Venus retrograde is the most strongly felt of all retrograde planets.

During Venus in retrograde motion, your love life enters a fated period. Giving and receiving love and affection becomes more difficult. Old friends or lovers may reappear or you may relive past life experiences in order to sort out karmic issues. As Venus also rules money, it’s traditionally thought that Venus retrograde is not an ideal time for investing or buying luxury items.

Venus retrograde in transit is a time of introspection and reassessment. You will likely become interested in someone or something of value that would bring you pleasure. Destiny encounters are possible and you may actually come into contact with your soul mate. If so, you should experience a feeling of inevitability or familiarity. However, it is better to wait until Venus turns direct to make your move.

Use Venus retrogrades to improve how you feel about yourself, to love yourself more. Think about what really brings you pleasure. Find the reasons for problems in earlier or current relationships. This is where old lovers reappearing can help you clear away the past to make room for new relationships. Even reminiscing about old partners will help to remove your karmic baggage and lighten the load.

Venus Retrograde Dates

  • 2018, October 5 to November 16 — 25° Libra to 11° Scorpio
  • 2020, May 13 to June 25 — 21° Gemini to 5° Gemini
  • 2021, December 19 to January 29, 2022 — 26° to 11° Capricorn

Natal Venus Retrograde

Natal Venus retrograde suggests you have some difficulty in giving and receiving love and affection. You may experience sadness in love or have to endure hardship or delay. Lack of self-love, social anxiety, shyness, and even financial hardship are also possible.

Often these challenges are a result of past life relationship issues. Due to the laws of karma, if you caused suffering or hardship to a lover in an earlier life, you shall experience something similar yourself during this life. Venus retrograde acts like Mars so perhaps you hurt someone you loved. Maybe you had an affair, walked out when they needed you most, or physically injured them.

Whatever happened in past romances, you come into this life with those bad memories etched in your soul. You probably don’t recognize them as memories but as déjà vu or unexplained guilt. Especially when young, there can be a repeating theme of challenging events related to your past.

Sadness and disappointment may come from unrequited love, forced marriage, sexual abuse, mental illness, or physical disability. Learning to love yourself is critical in working through your Venus in retrograde issues. Other signs of natal Venus retrograde are poor personal hygiene and not caring about how you look.

Self-love can start with beautifying your physical appearance. Using fashion, cosmetics, and beauty treatments can greatly improve your self-love, therefore making you more lovable. However, natal Venus in retrograde can also show as excessive use of makeup and jewelry or even disfigurement from cosmetic surgery.

The aim of Venus retrograde in your natal chart is to perfect those areas of your love life which once let you down. As your relationship skills improve with experience, your karmic debt will be repaid and you start to enjoy more loving relationships.

499 thoughts on “Venus Retrograde

  1. I would like to know what happen if you finish a relationship on 14th may?

  2. Dear Bathsheba Venus, what is this apple doing in the Bible? (Proverbs 5:19, 25:11) The Holy Grail Cup of Astrology is sealed when Juno, Venus and Pallas Athena are within 1 to 15 degrees Scorpio, in Libra, and within 15 to 30 degrees Virgo. Venus likes to be in Libra with Juno and Pallas in Scorpio and Virgo. See what your family and close ones can find for the three olives in the Holy Grail cup of the supper of Jesus Christ. Venus is the black olive. If you have Eris on 15 degrees Aries, she may make you drink it for Ezekiel too, otherwise someone else will. (Matthew 20:22-23) This is my cup of the blood of the covenant of my resources. Drink it from ancient dates to the modern dates anew. Many people must drink together so that they are able to find the Holy Grail Cup. Children with their parents, and such is the way. Astrology is to be a gathering of spirits for our Father in heaven. (1 Corinthians 11:18-34) That was quite the Retrograde; how long has it been since you and Hercules fell off the Wagoneer?

  3. Venus retro 2017 brought me (Vigo with moon and asc in Aries) a karmic love that I’m still working through. Ishudder to think what V. Retrograde 2018 across his sign (Scorpio) holds in storefor me. Any advice or should I just hide until it’s over?

    • Oh my gosh I thought I was the only one, haha. I like to think that I could have just ignored him and the relationship (I knew about the retrograde and what it would bring) but looking at the other aspects in my chart, it was time and what happened would have happened regardless in a different way. HIs Venus and Moon are in Scorpio (so is my rising). Yikes. Hoping for both of us!

      • Hi Athnuacan,
        My venus and moon are also in scorpio. It’s pretty bad right? I seem to totally lose it when it comes to love matters. Do you have tips for me please how to deal with that? Or am I just hopeless? 😞
        Thanks in advance!

  4. I wish I had avoided this drama last year. Definite a whirlwind romance followed by chaos and confusion, deception, lies, manipulation, on and off again “love”. Many love affairs have come out of this retrograde from last year and seem to be ending with these 3 eclipses. I got caught up in an affair and it has drained the life out of me psychically, physically, mentally and emotionally. Yet it is hard for me to let go. But I don’t have to, it is letting go of me. I think mine has ended, but is dragging on with no closure–I’m suspended in the air it seems, although I am taking baby steps to distance myself. I think mine will come to a final closure this time around. As this venus retro conjunct my natal venus conjunct chiron and MC last year, this retro will conjunct my opposing pluto. So as you know, venus opposite pluto is intense love, often with the wrong people. I’m forced to look at myself, my love patterns (codependency/illusions/ideals) and my wounds in order to heal. Trines to NN and SN in Aqua and Leo respectively are playing their supportive roles in this dramatic transition.

  5. This year I have Venus entering retrograde in my 6th house in October 2018, and then entering direct on November 16th exactly on my Libra sun. Dont know but seems like a lot of good things. I natally have Sun/Pluto/Jupiter/Mercury conjunct in Spica and Venus in Antares, so kind of Jupiter will be entering Sagittarius around this time in my descendant and conjunct Venus later. Love comes to me this year!!! Well I guess that’s what astrology could predict, I still need to wait. At the moment nothing more far for truth, ahhaha. I also have a North Node return in January 2019, if it’s going to be love, it’s going to be the love of my life, right? I don’t have a clue now, since I am single since ages, hahaha. I will come back to tell you if it worked 🙂

    • Yes please do Ana. That is extremely fortunate having all those planets on Spica. In fact it is a very fortunate stellium of planets on its own.

  6. Dear Jamie… Please some cues on the upcoming Venus Rx period… I have Asc on 10* Scorpio and I am a bit worried
    (especially since I have Sun on 2* Leo; Moon on 17* Taurus… ; my Axes are all in fixed signs…)
    Am I doomed? 🙂

    • Hi Ivy. Check to see if your Ascendant is conjunct the fixed stars Acrux and Alphecca because they are good influences Your Ascendant is probably closer to Acrux which means you should follow your intuition. This is what Deborah Houlding wrote about its constellation, the Southern Cross:

      The theme of sacrifice and stoic resilience has been further emphasized with heightened ecclesiastical connections… a need to sacrifice the animal/ego-driven instincts in pursuit of fortitude in the face of adversity, spiritual advancement and wounds that can never be healed.

      With Venus retrograde square Mars, you might become extra sensitive about wounds relating to previous relationships.

  7. Hi Jamie,
    My love life has always been pretty bad. I have my moon void in Scorpio, sun 20°, Venus26 ° and Mars 8° all in Taurus. Saturn square venus. I know as well that 26 ° is a karmic degree. What is going to happen with this Venus retrograde? Can this ever lighten up for me?

    • Hi Elyse. Do not worry about void of course Moon. I have seen no evidence that it is to be feared or even that is means anything at all.

      I have not heard of 26 being a karmic degree but fixed star Algol is at 26 Taurus which I agree is a karmic placement. Algol has a notorious reputation for misfortune, violence and decapitation. But you are in good company with Duke William and his mother Princess Diana, Johnny Depp and Michael Moore. Venus highlights the compassion, unique beauty and creativity of Algol.

      Venus square Saturn is one of the most challenging of aspects. I have the opposition and it does mean delays and hindrances in your love life. Saturn is a late bloomer so if you are patient and persistent you will reap the rewards.

      This Venus retrograde is opposite your Mars so read Venus opposite Mars transit.

  8. Hi Jamie, in your opinion, which is the most intense for the year 2018… Mars Rx or the Venus Rx ? Which is more intense and extreme… Frustration Rx OR Tension Rx ?? Thank you! ~ Christopher

    • Good question Christopher. I think the sexual tension of Venus retrograde is more intense than the sexual frustration of Mars retrograde because of the aspects:

      Venus retrograde square Mars 2°55′
      Mars retrograde square Jupiter 4°25′

  9. Hi. So I have Venus and Mars out of bounds in my natal chart and are in my 5th house based on equal house which I have found in my studies works best for me based on the timing of life events. Mars is in Gemini and Venus in Cancer. Venus has the higher declination but Mars is skipping right along not far behind. How do you think out of bounds energies react to this transit?

      • I see…. I do feel the out of bounds energy so to speak from my Mars and Venus. I know something is going on for sure. You would get along fabulously with Ernst Wilhelm. Sounds like you both have very innovative ideas about astrology. 🙂

  10. I am a Scorpio with Scorpio rising and my Venus is Scorpio retrograde. What are the effects of a Scorpio Venus retrograde on a person that has Scorpio Venus retrograde in the chart? I’m hoping it’s a coming into my own and healing time because good lawd it’s been a hard journey for matters of the heart.

  11. Thank you for this outline! This is already hitting me in the most blunt ways.

    My boyfriend (Pisces) of and I (Aquarius) got in a fight on 9/8 when Venus/Mars square. He ends things suddenly on the 9th. Things were going well, and he admits I make him happy, but having second thoughts.

    He also wants to keep in contact. And put that ball in my court?

    Based on your article, is it safe to hope for a reconciliation come Nov/Dec?

    • Yes Ryan, Venus stationary direct on Spica and Arcturus is really good for love relationships and friendship in general.

    • Yes I believe so. The same as it would be for people with natal venus retrograde. If not easier than you should at least be able to make good progress with the issues that progressed Venus retrograde has raised for you.

  12. Hello!!Such an interesting and detailed article! I am Capricorn and my north node is in Taurus in 1st house.My natal Pluto makes a conjunction to South node in Scorpio in 7 th house.Venus Rx will conjunct my natal pluto and south node.She will also conjunct transit mercury on same degree.Any idea what this scorpio meeting might bring to me??Thank you Jamie

      • Thank you so Jamie! I did some research!My Taurus ascendant is conj Hamal & Schedir asteroids (not so good) and venus retrograde, besides my natal pluto,will conjunct Khamdalia asteroid in Scorpio and oppose my taurus asteroids (also not very joyfull).Hopefully my natal conjunction of Mercury Neptune and Polis asteroid in capricorn may bring equilibrium during the upcoming weeks!! I’m also pinning my hopes on jupiter’s sag transit on my natal moon and uranus conj both in 19th degree sag!!!

        • Mercury and Neptune on Polis is very esoteric. You should have have excellent intuitive if not psychic abilities.

          • Yes! I don’t know if it’s relevant but mercury helps me speak out what i sense (Neptune).I also remember quite clearly my dreams and get plenty of messages out of those. My Scorpio sister (sun at 3rd degree) has her moon conjunct Neptune at 4th degree Capricorn so the activation of our planets conjunction is always present. Thanks again Jamie!!

  13. thanks you for sharing your thorough knowledge of astrology. You are clearly on another level than most of what tere is to find on the Internet.
    Venus/Mars reminds me of the story how Vulcanus (Hephaistos for the Greeks) created a metal net that fell over the lovers Venus (Aphrodite) and Mars (Ares) so they could not get away and were then exposed to their peers, in this case: the other Olympians (Gods) .

  14. Great analysis Jamie.

    I’ve been feeling a HUGE surge of sexual energy since Venus entered the shadow phase! For someone who had turned pretty much asexual over the last decade and has been single (and not dating) for a couple of years, it has been both exhilarating and scary. Sleep and appetite has been hit, much to my suprise. This energy will not be ignored it seems!

    I find myself attracted deeply and very intensely to someone I cannot have (without having felt this attracted to him before Venus entered shadow phase), it feels like an intense attraction at the soul level, like he can see into me and I can into him, goes far beyond the physical. I know he admires me for my mind and spirit, as I admire him for his.

    Have been open about my attraction and was surprised to find he admits to being attracted to me as well (though not as intensely), but we both agree that acting on it is off the table for us in this life. So I have started to turn this intense (and unsuppressable) primal energy around and probe my unconscious/shadow aspects to understand why this is happening. Much is coming to light now. Wounds relating to prolonged childhood abuse and neglect, and wanting deeply to be seen and accepted for all that I am seem to be driving this strong desire to mate on a spiritual level. My understanding of sex is also undergoing tectonic shifts, I am glimpsing what true spiritual lovemaking might be like.

    Could this incredible surge in sexual desire and energy be because Venus is almost conjunct my natal Jupiter at 10 degrees Scorpio? I wonder if it is a time for sexual healing from within, with or without a partner. I have also been feeling like my real partner is just around the corner, the one I’m meant to be with, I just haven’t met him yet but who knows!

    Venus will also be retrograding over my natal Pluto at 26 Libra this year, squaring natal Venus at 26 Capricorn. Will this retrograde help my lifelong issues with a very tight natal Venus square Pluto? Your analysis of natal Venus square Pluto helped me understand a while ago about what I needed to do to transmute that aspect – self-love. Is Pluto in this scenario this October/Nov the reason I am “rebirthing” into a whole new understanding of spiritual Union with a partner, where mind,body and soul meld?

    Thanks for your refreshing outlooks on aspects Jamie. I have found them to be enlightening at times, much gratitude.

    • Yes, Jan. It must be because of venus retrograde conjunct your Jupiter. When I started reading your comment I thought maybe it was conjunct your Pluto, but Jupiter exaggeration would explain the intensity you feel.

      • Ah, good to know Jamie. Surprised Jupiter is capable of intensifying things so much, I also thought it was Pluto!

        Interestingly, not long after I posted my original comment, I ended up experiencing a breakthrough around this uncontrollable sexual/sensual energy. I had thrown myself deliberately into trying to unearth what was driving this, since I am used to Inner work (have no choice with my natal Venus square my Mars Sat Pluto stelium, and opposite my North Node in a painful T square, it’s either transform or die for me), and the minute I hit upon the actual reason for this sexual surge, the energy dissipated soon after, like air being let out of a giant hot air balloon, whoooompf – which was a huge relief, as I could finally feel how exhausted and drained my body had become with lack of sleep and food.

        My intense attraction to my friend went down pretty quickly after that, which was also wonderful as I was struggling to not let it affect our close friendship.

        Interestingly I haven’t gone back to being an asexual – far from it! The energy has just rebalanced itself to comfortable levels, and I now find myself more at ease with my own sexuality than I ever have been. It’s wonderful! Feels like I was a Phoenix that got burnt in the intense flames of desire, and then re birthed itself from the ashes with some focussed introspection, better than ever. I am excited by the prospect of experiencing truly transcendent lovemaking now.

        Gotta say, I’m pretty pleased with myself, I’m still surprised that I managed to transmute such intense sexual energy into healing myself in some way. It took all my strength and then some (I have Mars Rx, Saturn Rx and Pluto Rx conjunct, read somewhere it is pure willpower when harnessed properly) but it’s so so so worth it to be on the other side of this breakthrough

        Hope my post and update helps others out there this Venus retrograde. I feel I have transcended a big part of my natal Venus square Pluto Rx (0 degree orb) which has been utterly brutal to live with since childhood. Yay! I wonder – how can it get even better than this? 🙂

        • How does Pluto Square Venus differ from Saturn square Venus? I can tell you that it is truly a cross to bear concerning relationships

          • Elyse, if you think that’s bad for relationships…. Try having both Saturn square Venus and Pluto square Venus natally! And throw in Mars square Venus for good measure. It’s enough to make you want to leave this earth a gajillion times. I was born into abuse and continue to suffer it till this day. Only my will keeps me alive, I have far more reason to be gone from this life.

            I have all three malefics in Libra squaring Venus in Capricorm AND North Node in Cancer – now that’s a 1,000 ton cross to bear! Guessing your chart is looking pretty good now eh? 😉

            • Sorry to hear you’ve had such a difficult time in this incarnation Jan, but are we playing a game of “can you top this”? I also have a Scorpio moon (void) but with Sun, mars and Venus in Taurus ( moon opposition Mars). It hasn’t been a picnic! A Scorpio moon is a bitch! Saturn square Venus ( one degree off of squaring my sun) has not been fun. The important thing is to never give up! I have that Taurus persistance. Hoping things get better for you!

            • Heh, nope not playing any games of who can top who Elyse. Have been searching for charts like mine on the net, just can’t seem to find many like it. I would so love to read somewhere how to handle my crazy stelium squaring Venus. I should be a cocaine addict by now for all that I have suffered , but I’m blessed with some inner strength I guess. Plus I was told when young, that I have one of the worst birth charts it is possible to have. Sadly my life reflects it! But a change is coming, and I’m determined to overcome my natal limitations somehow. Plutonian death and rebirths on repeat have tempered me and made me strong I think!

              Scorpio moon – ouch! That does sound difficult and intense. And to have it opposed by Sun Venus in Taurus can’t be much fun. Mars opposition Moon sounds pretty iffy too. Thanks for your wishes, and I wish you well too.

              As for your original question, I’ve been trying to think about it, and I’m not sure I can differentiate entirely between the two but I will try.

              Venus Square Pluto feels like repeated excruciating emotional death and destruction in close relationships that (if handled right) can lead to rebirth, but with much hard work on the Self. It can be very very difficult though, suicide seems much easier when in the throes of it. One has to face suicidal ideation and consciously choose each time to stay alive when crushed in love and relationships. Crucial issue is self-love.

              Venus square Saturn feels like suffering in love relationships with no purpose to me. IMO Venus square Pluto is far more brutal and will take you to the brink of death (or destroy your health in the process), but it holds the seeds for intense evolution. Coming out the other side can feel like a whole new You is born, with a higher and healthier perspective on love.

              Now that I’m beginning to overcome my natal Venus square Pluto (almost exact), Venus square Saturn doesn’t bother me anymore. It’s like this – you’re finally defeating a killer whale that’s been chasing you forever, so what’s a regular smallish shark going to do that you can’t handle? 😉 Saturn is no match for Pluto, and once you’ve got Pluto handled, Saturn can seem tame in comparison.

    • Hey Jan, this was strange…….I felt like I was reading about myself. Wow, is all I can say. Same scenario for me. Its anxiety at a level of taking your breath away. Curious, when is your birthday? So glad I came across this. Thanks for sharing.

      • Happy to read that my post helped you in any way Cindy. I have posted a reply to Jamie just above this, as an update. You might find it interesting.

        Yes the anxiety level was unbelievable! Like you said, I couldn’t breathe for the intense desire that surged through me. It was exciting but soon got to be too much to handle.

        If it helps, check out these blog links below (posting in a separate post because the browser won’t let me copy paste). I read a ton on how to use Sexual Energy to heal yourself, it made all the difference. Good luck!

        • Unable to post the links : Google the following,

          Loner wolf, Transforming Sexual Energy into Spiritual Energy

          Calmdownmind, Channel Your Sexual Energy

      • On one hand ones horoscope is a blueprint of where your consciousness was at birth. I’m beginning to think that as we grow in self awareness that there is the possibility to take control. Nothing is written in stone. If it were what would be the reason of living if transformation wasnt possible?

        • Agree. That’s why I veered away from deterministic and fatalistic Vedic astrology entirely, it’s interpretations always sound like a death sentence to me – “this is your life, you were bad in a past life, you are being punished and there’s not much you can do about it. Give up meat, wear these gems on these fingers, and always put duty above personal desire and dreams.” Errrrm, no thanks.

          Western astrology, especially the kind that is based on psychology and psychoanalysis has been helpful to me. It also seems to have a much healthier and more empowering viewpoint on past lives than Vedic and other traditional streams of astrology. I find Jamie’s site to be interesting in this regard, there’s always some suggestion of how to take responsibility for yourself and ease, if not transform your difficult natal aspects.

          I’m pretty Plutonian, so I can throw myself into transformation. I don’t think I could tolerate my Life if I thought there was no hope for change. I don’t believe for one second anything is written in stone – Life is a combination of destiny (what I see as pre-planned incidents that are part of your soul plan, and cannot be avoided); and Free Will (your choice on how to respond).

          Natal aspects account for destiny, and sometimes a very high probability of how things manifest. But once Free Will is consciously harnessed, I believe it is possible to graduate to a level where difficult natal aspects start working in harmony. This to me is Alchemy – transforming “lead” to “gold”. But not much will happen merely by learning astrology, the real change happens when one works on the self.

  15. Amazing read!!! My question is on creative work. I moved from my city 2 months ago so i could work out of town, save money and be able to finance my creative interests. For some reason I wouldn’t let my self start anything creative. I would work on a collection and literally crumple it up thinking something ain’t right. Last week i was layed off and it all made sense why i wouldn’t commit to a project while out of town. Soon after starting the project i would have to leave yet again.

    Now i feel i can restart working on that project. I design women’s clothing you see. And ive read articles saying its not a good time to start on women’s business etc. While writing this im realizing that I’m not starting, I’m going over and redoing what i already started before and perfecting during the retrograde. My theme now is quite romantic and incredibly feminine.

    My question was should i continue with this collection. I think i know the answer. It’s time i finish what i already started.

    Thank you for your insights

    • Hi Samantha. It does sound like you were coming to a realization while you were writing this. I would just add that Venus stations retrograde on a very creative star, Alphecca. Then it stations direct on two extremely fortunate stars which are good for success, wealth and renown. Sounds like it should work out fine. Though it will depend on your chart and transits of course.

  16. To Samantha:

    Sex is much more than the biological method to ‘make children., isn’t it?

    I write this because when you want to be creative, or: are creative, it’s very important to know what your goal is. What you exactly mean by succes. Because the creation itself and the satisfaction you get from it, the feeling good, the heightened awareness etc are the main components of succes. When there’s a goal like starting your own brand, making a living out of it … you go outside the creative part and you enter the business part. This does not have to be a problem, but it is … different.

    What you need for it is being social, learning to know people and becoming someone people like to know. This is indeed very Venusian, and Jamie can tell you more about this. But : nothing is more boring to people than someone who only talks about themselves. You’ll have to show real interest in others – they sense it when it is fake – and somehow your creations may have to ‘please’. This can be, or become, a problem.

    I am *not* suggesting you can’t, but for a serious part of individuals from the creative tribe, this ‘pleasing’, the concessions one has to make, work as creativity blocks. At best they start repeating themselves. And potential clients notice this and stay away. So it’s always a balancing act between on the one hand staying yourself and deepen your creativity, and, on the other hand, not be that full of your own creativity that there is no more room for others.

    I personally have ditched the latter because it made me unhappy, and I now paint what I want, and when I want it. But I am not that snobbish that I would assume anyone has to be or do like me.

    Wishing you lots of succes. YOUR succes!

  17. Thank you Jamie for all your posts, i enjoy them each time.
    I’m looking forward for the upcoming roller coaster, Venus transiting natal IC, Mars Rx and South Node and upstairs Uranus transiting natal Venus, MC and North Node … all good
    I am intrigued as each time you mention the fixed stars and the interpretations are stunning. You are the only astrologer i know who works with them and i was wondering if you could give us some indication of where to find more info besides the mentions at the bottom of your posts, and where to be able to calculate them in our own chart, thanks in advance

  18. A book recommendation: “The Power Of BirthdaysBirthdays, Stars, & Numbers” by Saffi Crawford And Geraldine Sullivan, 1998

  19. 11/2/79-Me, 2/13/69- my partner. Wondering if we will permanently sever ties. we are currently in separation.

  20. Venus retrograde 2018 10° Scorpio.

    Friday October 5 at 12:04 pm LA, 3:04 pm NY, 8:04 pm UK, Saturday 0:34 am DL, 5:04 am SYD.

  21. Dear Jamie,
    I was wondering this…Recently I met a person (romantic date), it was during Jupiter transit on my natal North Node in Scorpio (Sep 21, sharp conj at 21 degrees), on a business trip. Now this person has started to slow things down, being reluctant at the idea of a long-distance relation (same country, but very far away)…Do you think this may be due to Venus Rx (I met him in phase 1)? Will direct Venus, after the Nov 15th, possibly unblock the situation? (I am a Cap, Leo asc…and to make things easier, I also have my natal Venus in Scorpio, at 27 degrees, conjunct my natal NN)…Thanks, really xxx

  22. Hello,
    Please, could anyone here help me understand what happened 5 of october because I don’t know how to interpret those energies I had felt. Here is my case:

    I am Divine Femine Twin Flame. We are 4 months in separation, no contact. We aren’t in other relationships, both singles. We haven’t had sex yet. I am 10 years in celibacy. Because of sneaky behaviors and deception from my DM in the past, I have some big trust isues due to him, I was carying big fear of being betrayed. I was doing a lot of inner work during this 4 months to get to union and to be a better person but I couldn’t leave this fear of betrayal. I have had some negativity from time to time in me because of DM deception.

    On 5 october I was smoking weed and was planing doing meditation and calming. After weed I am allways very peacefull and sensitive to energies that I can easily recognise. Also after smoking I have only love to my DM and I feel it from DM. But 5 of october I felt some sort of negativity from my DM. I felt rejection. Suddenly I felt very unsecure and horny. I recognize this was my DM. The unsecurity was bigger and in my head I started saing “no, no, You cant’ You can’t its sacred union, you can’t” and then I felt huge sexual tension. It all began. I was feeling that DM has sex with someone else, I had that inner knowing but I couldn’t believe it. It was so unreal but I was feeling it. I was feeling huge sexual arousal and unsecurity at once. I was feeling strange sexual energy inside of my body. It was very weird, beautifull, great and ugly. I was feeling like I am having sex without my permision. It was like great cosmic orgasm that was given to me but I didn’t want to feel it, like it was given without my ask. After all I was feeling very happy and ugly at once. Like after huge unwanted orgasm from betrayal. Then the negativity flow was unstopable all night. I was very unstable sad and angry.

    The day after I was feeling ugly energy in my body all day. Strange and dirty energy that wasn’t mine and I want to shake it. I was in denial it could happen. All day my head was looping one thoughts: “Why? How could you, how could You, we were so close to union, all of that hard work is gone, union is gone. I didn’t want anymore DM, union and all of TF stuff for 3 days. I lost faith and block everything saing it isn’t for me. My heart was closed and I was very, very angry. Now I am much stable, but so confused.

    Please tell me, what was that? Was it new cosmic energy flowing into my sacral chacra and unblocking it? Energy that I couldn’t recognise so it scares me a lot and I overeacted it with ego and big feer based mind projection? Or it was my DM with someone else and I felt DM sexual energy? Deep down I know, that DM will never hurt me but it was so real experience. Deep in my heart i know that wee love eachother and we are keeping our bodies “clean”, I believe that we have this silent commitment but I am afraid, that it could be some sort of karmic lesson for us. Please help, it is so confusing and sad. I feel betrayed.

    Best wishes Johny N

    • What you were feeling is the energy of the other woman he had sex with. Also because you are connected to him on an energetic level you could feel his sexual arousal through him. It was not a “cosmic orgasm” or an energy unblocking your crown chakra unfortunately. Your fear of being betrayed by him was legitimate as he was probably already seeing her since you went no contact. He probably thought he no longer has any tie to you and began dating someone else which is totally normal. The male Twin flames are always more stupid and less spiritually developed than us. The same thing happened to me with mine dating someone else for 7 years.During this Venus retrograde he still wants to have telepathic sex with me on the astral level. I had a similar negative vibe ever since he started dating this new bitch. It’s simply your awareness of them fucking someone else.

    • I also made the decision to remain celibate since I couldn’t really find someone else since 6 years ago when my male twin flame abandoned me. I have only dated one person but it didn’t really work and I also have no desire to date since my last trauma. My sex drive was really low up until this Venus Retrograde when this moron (my tf) showed up in my dream and said he wanted to have sex which is horrible of him because he is still in that same relationship. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. He wants to continue being with this other person and still fuck me on the side just because we’re twin flames.

    • I am also about to be done with him for life. I am seriously considering the possiblity that he is just a narcissistic abuser and this was all a huge mistake. I don’t give a shit about twin flames anymore. The way I see it it’s his choice to be with someone else and it’s extremely controlling to not allow someone to date someone else because they are your “twin flame” and you have a claim over him. Men are generally huge sluts, promiscuous, non monogamous. It’s plain biology. Twin flames or not, this is another person we are speaking of and they can live their life however they want. In our case, it’s literally impossible to ever be together physically so for a while I settled for having this spiritual connection. I decided to content myself with that little since he showed no interest in me last time. Upon further reconsiderations, I may even let go of the telepathic connection and completely cut him off since this isn’t really headed anywhere, he clearly prefers the other person so I just decided to give him up and the twin flame relationship. I no longer look forward to union. I advise you to do the same. PLEASE don’t stay celibate just because you wait for this man who clearly doesn’t respect you or the connection. Start looking for someone else and be happy. Screw “twin flames”

    • Hun if you connect when you smoke weed which it does do that for many people then what you felt was your higher self telling you to wake up from the dream of something that probably will never happen. Twin Flames are very very rare and when you do find yours, trust me there will be no distance. Love yourself enough to know that when a man loves you, I mean truly loves you, he will move mountains for you.

      Forget the twin flame stuff. If it’s meant to be, I promise it will be instant and forever. Good luck and best wishes.

  23. So my birthday is April 2, 87. His bday is sept 4 83. We started chatting oct 6th online. And within a day had already decided we wanted to meet. We met on oct 12th in person and had such a strong connection. Everything was amazing for about 5 days and then all of a sudden he stopped flirting. Turned quiet. Says hes “stressed, burnt out, and busy.” The app we were chatting on showed he added a new photo the same day he grew cold. I asked him about it and he says it doesnt mean anything and that hes still into me but just keeps saying hes busy. I even asked if hes just using that as an excuse to gently blow me off and he says no. I have a weird feeling about it. Ive seen this pattern before and ive always been right but id really like to be wrong. He went from offering me a key to his place to just “busy and stressed and overwhelmed”. If hes legit then i dont want to miss out on this opportunity, but if im right then i dont want to waste my time.

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